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dirtydog said:
It seems you underestimate the BNP and the way their policies strike a chord with many people in this country, but our politicians don't underestimate them. Their biggest fear is anything which upsets their cosy status quo.
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What utter nonsense. The BNP don't strike a chord with many people - their policies haven't been thought through, they send out leaflets that show what a bunch of incompetent fools they are, and the picture 'testimonials' they use have stock pictures taken from the internet (without permission) because no one wants to be associated with them. Not exactly what you'd expect from a party that strikes a chord with a good section of the electorate is it? The reason people are worried is because the BN may well enjoy a good number of protest votes.
 
dirtydog said:
Because they are afraid of the BNP :)
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I can understand that, I'd be exceptionally worried if the BNP got anywhere near control of the country as no matter how bad you may think the situation is now the BNP can be almost guaranteed to make it worse. While I'm well aware that what is in a manifesto isn't necessarily going to be what the party does while in power the BNPs manifesto doesn't even look promising or as if they've got a suitable clue about what to do if they did by some horrific failure of circumstance get elected.

However I think you are being slightly disingenuous to suggest that is the main reason why you'd vote for them over any other fringe party. If the vote is meant to send a message of your feeling of disenfranchisement with the current system then there is no obvious reason to pick the BNP unless you also happen to agree with at least some of their policies - now given that their main area where they are distinct from the rest is in their approach to immigration and other nationalities that would seem to be the logical reason to assume why most of the voters pick them in preference to another party. If that's the problem and reason why you'd vote for them there doesn't appear any need to indulge in sophistry.
 
i understand that they dont have a problem with uk citezens immigrating out, but, if its ok for us to go and "steal" decent jobs elsewhere why is it so bad for them to come here and do jobs lazy stupid people believe below them?? if "joe bloggs" from the council estate believes because he was born in the UK and got all Es at GCSE then manual work on a farm is below him then hes not going to do it when the immigrants leave (presuming the BNP get their way) and the UK will crumble further than it already has!
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
What utter nonsense. The BNP don't strike a chord with many people - their policies haven't been thought through, they send out leaflets that show what a bunch of incompetent fools they are, and the picture 'testimonials' they use have stock pictures taken from the internet (without permission) because no one wants to be associated with them. Not exactly what you'd expect from a party that strikes a chord with a good section of the electorate is it? The reason people are worried is because the BN may well enjoy a good number of protest votes.
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the reason for that is " whats been happening over the past years" once your seen to join bnp peopel think oh he's a bad person.
 
chuck990 said:
i understand that they dont have a problem with uk citezens immigrating out, but, if its ok for us to go and steal decent jobs elsewhere why is it so bad for them to come here and do jobs lazy stupid people believe below them?? if jor bloggs believes because he was born in the UK and got al Es at GCSE then manual work on a farm is below him then hes not going to do it when the immigrants leave (presuming the BNP get their way) and the UK will crumble further than it already has!
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Luckily the idea that our economy would crumble without mass immigration is rubbish.
 
dirtydog said:
I think it is hard to argue with what Griffin says there. He is just articulating what a lot of us think but are too afraid to say it or even to think it, because it flies in the face of politically correct perceived wisdom.
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I don't agree with him. Take this, for example:

"These people are 'black residents' of the UK etc, and are no more British than an Englishman living in Hong Kong is Chinese.
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If I was an Englishman living in Hong Kong, I would not be Chinese because I'd have been born in England, and almost certainly raised there too.

If I was black and had been born in Britain and lived here my entire life I'd consider myself 100% British.

That seems to be his justification for redefining black citizens as foreign residents. That then facilitates his argument that foreign residents should be repatriated.
 
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Von Smallhausen said:
As force policies and priorities are ultimately set by government I do believe the police are absolved of blame.
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Fair enough.
I think that there should be a police chief Voted in by the people in each city..
So if they do well they get voted in and if they do bad they are out.

Then you could nick all them MPs knowing that if you did not you would not get voted in next time.
 
dirtydog said:
If the BNP are as feeble as you suggest, why would anyone be 'worried' about them picking up votes? ;)
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Because they're protest votes from people that don't realise that just because they're not voting for one of the big three it's not necessarily a good alternative. Just because something's not the frying pan, doesn't mean it's not a raging racist inferno. ;)
 
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