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deuse said:
Yes they will be and are, as they was not native to the USA
why do you think the americans call them selves citizens and not natives.


only the indians are native.
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The trouble with that definition is the timeline is arbitrary - the Indians haven't been there forever (not that I know anything of North American Indian tribes). So at what point do you say that a people are natives? When they've lived there for a hundred years, a thousand years, ten thousand? If we have originated from a common ancestor then all 'native' American Indians should surely be classed as immigrants...
 
Tefal said:
but the Indians din't evolve in America. so they arn't native either.
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Hmmm well they was there when the brits went over in search of gold in Virginia.
Also they lived in what we now call mexico, its was called then a VERY BIG place :)
 
Seems to me to be a complete confusion between nationality (citizenship), residency and race. What is there to define a 'British' person? British isn't a race - if second or third generation immigrants are citizens, but not really 'British', then what is there to define those who ARE really 'British'?

As has been stated, Britain as it stands has always been a bit of a melting pot. Angles, Jutes, Normans, Romans... Damn, well I guess I must not be British, but neither do I know where I should be sent back to.

IMO what the BNP don't like is change. It's the party of the rose tinted (and completely useless) spectacles.

What a crock...
 
Dolph said:
Anyone born in Britian is a native brit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_born



If you mean they aren't ethinically british, well, first you'll have to define what the british ethnicity actually is, given the massive variation in physical attributes, the centuries of immigration, invasion and so on...

At the end of the day, it'll boil down to the same thing it always does with BNP supporters, skin colour.

The BNP are happy for someone with a french great-great grandparent to be British, but not the same person with an african great great grandparent...
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they talk about residents
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
The trouble with that definition is the timeline is arbitrary - the Indians haven't been there forever (not that I know anything of North American Indian tribes). So at what point do you say that a people are natives? When they've lived there for a hundred years, a thousand years, ten thousand? If we have originated from a common ancestor then all 'native' American Indians should surely be classed as immigrants...
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All the way from mexico east to florida then north to canada was one big place.
Well thats until people from euro went there and carved it up for themselves.


EDIT=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
 
mattheman said:
'racial foriegners' that can include french german etc...
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How are the French and Germans of a different race? Would you be able to distinguish between a British man and a French man by looking at them?

The BNP's definition of race is skin colour.

In reality, there is no such thing as 'race' in humans, other than the continuum of varying physical qualities that makes everyone unique.
 
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mattheman said:
'racial foriegners' that can include french german etc...
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Please re-read the article that has been linked several times from the BBC.

In fact, I'll link it again, just to be sure you've seen it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8011878.stm

The BNP manual, leaked to the anti-fascist group Searchlight and seen by the BBC, says that "BNP activists and writers should never refer to 'black Britons' or 'Asian Britons' etc, for the simple reason that such persons do not exist".

"These people are 'black residents' of the UK etc, and are no more British than an Englishman living in Hong Kong is Chinese.

"Collectively, foreign residents of other races should be referred to as 'racial foreigners', a non-pejorative term... The key in such matters is above all to maintain necessary distinctions while avoiding provocation and insult."

The manual describes the BNP's "ultimate aim" as the "lawful, humane and voluntary repatriation of the resident foreigners of the UK".
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The BNP don't care about white skinned people being here, whatever their ancestory, they care about black and brown skinned people being here.

And again, for the avoidance of doubt.

According to its constitution, the BNP is "committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948."[21] The BNP also proposes "firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home."[22]

It advocates the repeal of all anti-discrimination legislation, and restricts party membership to "indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous Caucasian’". The BNP also accepts white immigrants that are assimilated into one of those ethnicities.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
http://web.archive.org/web/20070629010001/http://www.bnp.org.uk/resources/constitution_8ed.pdf
 
I had an Egyptian uncle (he passed away a few years back). He had lived in the UK for 50 years or more. He had three children, my cousins unsuprisingly, who would technically be half egyptian. Their mother having a British ancestry dating back to one of the Welsh Princes (there were many, almost anyone with Welsh blood eventually hits a prince in the geneology). All of them were brought up in England (Portsmouth in fact) and have lived here all of their lives (bar the odd holiday and a gap year or two). Are they British? Or would they be on the list for human, voluntary repatriation?
 
RDM said:
I had an Egyptian uncle (he passed away a few years back). He had lived in the UK for 50 years or more. He had three children, my cousins unsuprisingly, who would technically be half egyptian. Their mother having a British ancestry dating back to one of the Welsh Princes (there were many, almost anyone with Welsh blood eventually hits a prince in the geneology). All of them were brought up in England (Portsmouth in fact) and have lived here all of their lives (bar the odd holiday and a gap year or two). Are they British? Or would they be on the list for human, voluntary repatriation?
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if the yare citizens they stay.
 
mattheman said:
if the yare citizens they stay.
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That is not the BNP's policy, please stop repeating it.

The BNP want everyone who is not white to return to the country of their ethnic origin, citizen or not, and irrespective of whether they have ever lived there.
 
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