The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Stolly · 23 May 2009 at 22:56

deuse said:
Think of it like this.

The indians in america are Native, every one else is a citizen of the usa.
Like me I am Native to UK(trace back to 500ad scotland) but in the USA I am a immigrant.

Your children won't be.

The children of children of immigrants to the UK ain't either.

Inquisitor · 23 May 2009 at 22:57

mattheman said:
you are a british citizen if you have a british passport or registered, you are not a native brit.

So what is a native? Someone whose family has lived in Britain for ever? Britain has not existed as a country for ever. It's been invaded several times in the last two thousand years or so and consequently has been ruled by completely different ethnicities.

Edit: this is unbelievable.

Stolly · 23 May 2009 at 22:57

mattheman said:
you are a british citizen if you have a british passport or registered, you are not a native brit.

Jesus you have to be kidding me.

Monkey Puzzle · 23 May 2009 at 22:57

deuse said:
Thank you I will take that by paypal or bank transfer please
I could do with the cash..

Monopoly money any good?

Streeteh · 23 May 2009 at 22:58

mattheman said:
you are a british citizen if you have a british passport or registered, you are not a native brit.

Hate to break this to you mate, but that means you ain't native either.

Tefal · 23 May 2009 at 22:58

I wonder if the queen will be repatriated.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 22:58

Streeteh said:
Hate to break this to you mate, but that means you ain't native either.

never said i was.

Tefal · 23 May 2009 at 22:59

mattheman said:
never said i was.

So will you be voluntarily repatriating yourself to your native country?

Stolly · 23 May 2009 at 23:00

Tefal said:
I wonder if the queen will be repatriated.

Along with half the membership of the BNP, if we are going back 500 years...

Monkey Puzzle · 23 May 2009 at 23:00

mattheman said:
you are a british citizen if you have a british passport or registered, you are not a native brit.

Do you mean, if you've registered then you're not a native Brit? Could you please try and form your sentences better. I'm not trying to be a ****, but it's difficult to understand what you're saying.

deuse · 23 May 2009 at 23:01

Stolly said:
Your children won't be.

The children of children of immigrants to the UK ain't either.

Yes they will be and are, as they was not native to the USA
why do you think the americans call them selves citizens and not natives.

only the indians are native.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 23:02

Tefal said:
So will you be voluntarily repatriating yourself to your native country?

there 2 type indigenous native and native, i can be a native londoner, but not a native brit refering to a indigenous native.

Inquisitor · 23 May 2009 at 23:02

mattheman said:
you are a british citizen if you have a british passport or registered, you are not a native brit.

So what about all the black/Asian/middle Eastern people with British passports.

Tefal · 23 May 2009 at 23:02

deuse said:
Yes they will be and are, as they was not native to the USA
why do you think the americans call them selves citizens and not natives.

only the indians are native.

but the Indians din't evolve in America. so they arn't native either.

semi-pro waster · 23 May 2009 at 23:03

mattheman said:
race2 definition
race (rās)

noun

any of the different varieties or populations of human beings distinguished by a) physical traits such as hair, eyes, skin color, body shape, etc.: traditionally, the three primary divisions are Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid, although many subdivisions of these are also called racesb) blood types c) genetic code patterns d) all their inherited characteristics which are unique to their isolated breeding population

So what happens if someone who is of Caucasoid lineage has children with someone who is of Mongoloid ancestry? Does that create a whole new race? What if I get a tan? Use coloured contact lenses? Have plastic surgery?

It's laughably complicated to try and distinguish on such a basis and with so many potential and varying factors which apparantly have to be considered for a definition of race there's no point. We're all human, that's about as far as I get before I stop caring about breaking it down further.

Tefal · 23 May 2009 at 23:03

mattheman said:
there 2 type indigenous native and native.

So you're not going to be going back then?

One rule for you and another for everyone else?

deuse · 23 May 2009 at 23:03

Monkey Puzzle said:
Monopoly money any good?

Sweet

Tefal · 23 May 2009 at 23:04

semi-pro waster said:
We're all human, that's about as far as I get before I stop caring about breaking it down further.

Personally i like to go one further and stop at gender

Saves some embarrassing situations

semi-pro waster · 23 May 2009 at 23:06

Tefal said:
Personally i like to go one further and stop at gender

Saves some embarrassing situations

Ok, I'll grant you that one.

Dolph · 23 May 2009 at 23:08

mattheman said:
you are a british citizen if you have a british passport or registered, you are not a native brit.

Anyone born in Britian is a native brit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_born

A native-born citizen of a country is a person who was born within the country's territory and has been legally recognized as that country's citizen from birth (jus soli).

A person born outside a country, who gained citizenship of the country at birth through descent from a citizen, is a born citizen by jus sanguinis, not a native-born citizen nor a naturalized citizen. A person who was born in a country that did not recognize him as its citizen at birth, but later naturalized as its citizen, is also not a native-born citizen.

If you mean they aren't ethinically british, well, first you'll have to define what the british ethnicity actually is, given the massive variation in physical attributes, the centuries of immigration, invasion and so on...

At the end of the day, it'll boil down to the same thing it always does with BNP supporters, skin colour.

The BNP are happy for someone with a french great-great grandparent to be British, but not the same person with an african great great grandparent...