The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 23:36

RDM said:
Are they native Britons? How much forgien blood are you allowed before being irrovecably tainted?

Portsmouth native, not a brit native.

Vonhelmet · 23 May 2009 at 23:37

mattheman said:
Portsmouth native, not a brit native.

Portsmouth is in Britain, you know.

Dolph · 23 May 2009 at 23:38

mattheman said:
Portsmouth native, not a brit native.

Post 360

Already explained once.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 23:40

vonhelmet said:
Portsmouth is in Britain, you know.

there 2 type indigenous native and native, i can be a native londoner, but not a native brit refering to a indigenous native.

ShaolinDreams · 23 May 2009 at 23:41

yay that makes me a native then, so i guess that means i can stay and my mum can go... not a bad idea actually

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 23:41

Dolph said:
Post 360

Already explained once.

native-born citizen

Vonhelmet · 23 May 2009 at 23:42

mattheman said:
there 2 type indigenous native and native, i can be a native londoner, but not a native brit refering to a indigenous native.

Please point me to definitions of these terms, particularly with reference to how a person can be one but not the other.

Dolph · 23 May 2009 at 23:44

mattheman said:
there 2 type indigenous native and native, i can be a native londoner, but not a native brit refering to a indigenous native.

But you can be a native brit referring to the birth definition commonly used.

And how do you define an indigenous brit, given this nation's history of immigration and change? Or are you simply going with the definied by skin colour approach the BNP use?

Dolph · 23 May 2009 at 23:46

mattheman said:
native-born citizen

Yes. Native british citizen.

Seriously, why does skin colour matter so much?

sigma · 23 May 2009 at 23:46

I guess this thread sums up the BNP and its supporters quite well.....

ShaolinDreams · 23 May 2009 at 23:47

please show me evidence of your pure Britishness

from the beginning please!

moremoney · 23 May 2009 at 23:52

Dolph said:
That is not the BNP's policy, please stop repeating it.

The BNP want everyone who is not white to return to the country of their ethnic origin, citizen or not, and irrespective of whether they have ever lived there.

I have read your post again and i have changed my reply because this statement is just blatantly wrong.

I may not agree with the BNP but i will not stop them or their democratic right to say what they believe to be right.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 23:56

vonhelmet said:
Please point me to definitions of these terms, particularly with reference to how a person can be one but not the other.

not historically indigenous to the a country.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=I3_cSqmbXd8C&pg=PA9&dq=native+but+not+a+indigenous+native&lr=

Dolph · 23 May 2009 at 23:57

moremoney said:
I have read your post again and i have changed my reply because this statement is just blatantly wrong.

My statement or yours?

If you believe mine is wrong, please refute the information and links provided in this post.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14134934&postcount=373

edit:

I may not agree with the BNP but i will not stop them or their democratic right to say what they believe to be right.

Nor would I, but I will call them on their policies, and ensure that they are presented honestly (Something that the BNP have become much more reluctant to do over recent years).

The information in the post linked above comes from a combination of the BNP manifesto, and a BBC news article regarding the wording in their guidance to activists/canvassers about how to describe and handle groupings, and clarifying their policy. They haven't said they would force people to leave, but they have said they want them to leave.

mattheman · 23 May 2009 at 23:59

Dolph said:
But you can be a native brit referring to the birth definition commonly used.

And how do you define an indigenous brit, given this nation's history of immigration and change? Or are you simply going with the definied by skin colour approach the BNP use?

were do they say they would ban black citizens?

Dolph · 24 May 2009 at 00:01

mattheman said:
were do they say they would ban black citizens?

Where did I say they said this?

mattheman · 24 May 2009 at 00:04

Dolph said:
Where did I say they said this?

Or are you simply going with the definied by skin colour approach the BNP use? but dont local council define race on their forms? dont they seperate people into groups? and ask what group are you from? if you wnat equlity why should create seperate groups and ask if you black white etc... isnt that also a form of segregation, so you could argue that labour/ local councils are racist.

Dolph · 24 May 2009 at 00:08

I could, but Labour and the Local councils don't restrict their membership or define their policies based on racial groupings. (although for what it's worth, I'm against racial groupings, people are people.)

moremoney · 24 May 2009 at 00:10

Dolph said:
My statement or yours?

If you believe mine is wrong, please refute the information and links provided in this post.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14134934&postcount=373

edit:

Nor would I, but I will call them on their policies, and ensure that they are presented honestly (Something that the BNP have become much more reluctant to do over recent years).

The information in the post linked above comes from a combination of the BNP manifesto, and a BBC news article regarding the wording in their guidance to activists/canvassers about how to describe and handle groupings, and clarifying their policy. They haven't said they would force people to leave, but they have said they want them to leave.

Oh and i forgot that the bombers were English Nationals.

I have no wish to defend the BNP even tho i my agree with "some" of what they say'

But have you ever been to a cricket match involving England vs anyone else.

If you have then you will see how far this nation has NOT been invited into other cultures.

mattheman · 24 May 2009 at 00:10

Dolph said:
I could, but Labour and the Local councils don't restrict their membership or define their policies based on racial groupings. (although for what it's worth, I'm against racial groupings, people are people.)

but the black police club does, dont they? do you have any proof that the BNP restrict non whites from joining?