The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

dangerstat said:
What if the American's took that stance during the Holocost? Should we really turn people away who have been toutured in places like Rwanda? Have you no hummanity at all?

It's time we made a clear seperation between economic migrants, and those who are truely in need of something to save themselves from persicution. The day the UK turns away people that seek shelter from horrid abuses is the day the we become not better than the countries and regiemes responsible for the horrid acts on those refugees themselves.
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I think Britain should take in genuine refugees up to a point - they should be spread around all countries which is how the system is meant to work and does to some extent.

Most of our immigration is not people in dire need though, they aren't in any danger.

All I want is a strict points system similar to the US/Canada/Australia.
 
I came to the UK nearly 5 years ago. I obtained British citizenship two years after my arrival. If the BNP were in power, would they send me back home?
 
dmpoole said:
As much as I despise the BNP this is not the case.
It is all about immigrants who shouldn't be here whether they are black, brown, purple, yellow or white however first on the boat would be Pakistani's.
Indians would be way down the list and I attended meetings where Sikh's and Hindus were in there.
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They almost had me fooled too, until I read the words of the party manual.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8011878.stm

It doesn't matter how long your family has lived here, if you're a different race then you're not a citizen and should be repatriated.

The Sikhs and hindus at these meetings, were they Asian in appearance? I don't know the BNP's stance on people of other religions, but if they're "racial foreigners" then they'd probably like them to be repatriated.
 
na its ridiculousi have a friend whos mum married a man from denmark, he's a high up in nokia and sends him to one of the most expensive schools in the country but next year when he leaves mandatory education as his mum is the housewive and earns nothong he will get the full £30 a week EMA with a Denmark passport

EDIT: 500th post yay :p
 
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malc30 said:
For me it has Nowt to do with Colour or where you come from it is about Space & who got here first, Simple as that.
We have enough people on this Island now stop, Rocket sciences it's not.

To help you understand what I mean try this.
Say I know 1 thousand people.
I am having a party but my house will only hold 200 people comfortably.
I want to invite everybody of course I do but if I do it will Spoil the party for All.
There fore the first 200 get in & the others can **** off.
I mkae no distinction between who what or where just Close the doors & Stop letting more people in.

Now surely that makes sense even to the most Basic person.
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So nothing to do with unreasonably hard-working Poles taking your factory job anymore?

My answer would be to develop a similar country to ours that has more space & help/encourage others to go there.
***** me off when you cannot put forward reasonable arguments/Ideas without being branded a Racist. Anybody that accuses me of racism quite clearly does not know enough about me to comment.
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Right, so we're going to acquire a country, develop it and then send our immigrants there. Lol, does the country get a say in it or are we just going to have to convince them with the party analogy?;)
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
So nothing to do with unreasonably hard-working Poles taking your factory job anymore?
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Blimey you are trying hard aren't you. :p
Of course it has something to do with the Poles taking jobs, And space & everything else another Human uses, How can it be this hard to understand. :p

You lot get stuck on the Racist/Colour bit & I am just trying to make the simple point that I don't care who/what/where just No more as we don't have the jobs or the Space etc for them.
Stop trying to make me look how you want me to look & try opening your mind to a new idea of Nationalism. :)
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
Yeah, I think I must have some Polish ancestry.;)
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It's quite understandable given the dark association between Nationalism & fascism & of course it always brings out the xenophobes.
Also we have the problem that the majority of people don't actually know my history so assume (press lead) that being a strong Nationalist that I am also a Racist when nothing could be further from the truth.
I am pretty sure my previous posts cover my point to all except those that only see what they want, You know like them pesky Racists do. :eek: + :p
 
malc30 said:
It's quite understandable given the dark association between Nationalism & fascism & of course it always brings out the xenophobes.
Also we have the problem that the majority of people don't actually know my history so assume (press lead) that being a strong Nationalist that I am also a Racist when nothing could be further from the truth.
I am pretty sure my previous posts cover my point to all except those that only see what they want, You know like them pesky Racists do. :eek: + :p
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I understand your views, they make sense. But would you ever consider voting for the BNP?
 
p4radox said:
The Sikhs and hindus at these meetings, were they Asian in appearance? I don't know the BNP's stance on people of other religions, but if they're "racial foreigners" then they'd probably like them to be repatriated.
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They looked Asian and Sikhs have turbans.
Yes the BNP say they would be voluntarily repatriated.

People shouldn't vote for the BNP because they think they are racists, they shouldn't vote for them because they are idiots.
It makes me laugh the amount of chav threads on these newsgroups and everybody's hatred towards them but go to a BNP meeting and it's chav party time.
 
p4radox said:
I understand your views, they make sense. But would you ever consider voting for the BNP?
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No.
To be honest I want to start my own party, Then a Revolution & then do the job myself, I'm arrogant like that you see. ;)
 
deuse said:
That to me has hit the nail on the head.
why should anyone coming here and getting a citizenship be allowed
FREE health-FREE housing-Free cash everyweek-FREE this FREE that
WANT a 5 bed house NOOO problem,wide screen tv ok?

when they have NOT paid a peeny into the system.
But are only to ready to take it out.

It should be more like the USA, you have not paid anything in you dont get anything out.
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That's a flaw of the benefit system, not of immigration. There's no good reason that natives should be given those benefits without contributing to the system either.
 
dirtydog said:
We are full to the extent that more people hurts our quality of life. I don't mean in the sense that it is physically impossible to squeeze another person into the country.
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Theres still work out there. It will just take time as people grow old and the younger generations are more distributed around the jobs and the tertiary business that our country is becoming scarily dependent on.

The next stage will probably be a lack of physical work and primary business which will then lead to a lot of the eastern europeans being left without work. but i guess they are a lot better at adapting to changes than us and will probably emigrate onwards. Then another colapse or recession will occur no doubt and all countires will be in the mire after leaving all the raw skills abroad :D. An example as can be seen in Iceland recently.
 
lozzick said:
Theres still work out there. It will just take time as people grow old and the younger generations are more distributed around the jobs and the tertiary business that our country is becoming scarily dependent on.

The next stage will probably be a lack of physical work and primary business which will then lead to a lot of the eastern europeans being left without work. but i guess they are a lot better at adapting to changes than us and will probably emigrate onwards. Then another colapse or recession will occur no doubt and all countires will be in the mire after leaving all the raw skills abroad :D. An example as can be seen in Iceland recently.
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I never mentioned work, I am talking about the fact we are a tiny island. France has our population but is double our size...

England is one of the most populated countries in the entire world, more so than China which has birth controls to keep a lid on the population.
 
dirtydog said:
I never mentioned work, I am talking about the fact we are a tiny island. France has our population but is double our size...

England is one of the most populated countries in the entire world, more so than China which has birth controls to keep a lid on the population.
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Ok so even though we have plenty of land, resources to build housing and jobs isn't an issue. Sorry, i am now really struggling to see what the problem is here
 
lozzick said:
Ok so even though we have plenty of land, resources to build housing and jobs isn't an issue. Sorry, i am now really struggling to see what the problem is here
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What do you mean we have plenty of land? We are one of the most densely populated countries on earth. People need space to live a quality life, not to be packed in like bloody sardines.
 
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