The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Unfortunately poor DD is a bit insecure and feels uncomfortable when he's not surrounded by people that look, talk or act like him, so 'ability to integrate' includes the criteria of 'doesn't make me feel uncomfortable'.
 
Test how? A questionnaire asking them if they are going to be good? ;)

Ok, so you don't agree with testing or assessment, what else do you have in mind?

You do realise we have introduced citizenship tests already?

All the immigrants (first, second and third generation) I know are well integrated, irrespective of where they came from originally, hence why the only sensible solution can be to assess the person, not making blanket decisions based on arbitary factors.
 
What a load of BS. I reckon you're of the opinion that they're not just 'working jobs the British should have' but that they're 'STEALING OUR JOBS'.

Someone cant "steal" a job, its not yours by right.

And anyway, if someone can come from another country and take your job, then you must be fairly bad at it.
 
You do realise we have introduced citizenship tests already?
Does it apply to every immigrant wishing to enter our country? No it does not. Do I need to explain the pointlessness of an immigration policy which is strict on a handful of immigrants but lets in all the rest without a second glance?
 
Someone cant "steal" a job, its not yours by right.

And anyway, if someone can come from another country and take your job, then you must be fairly bad at it.

The whole jobs thing is just capitalism at work. We pay Polish people to do the work because it's cheaper than paying British people to do the work. Everyone wants British jobs for the British, but no one wants to pay the increased prices (and the shareholders don't want the reduced dividends) that using British workers would result in.
 
Someone cant "steal" a job, its not yours by right.

And anyway, if someone can come from another country and take your job, then you must be fairly bad at it.

What a complete non-sequitur. I suppose if you struggle to get a dentist because of the numbers of immigrants using them, that's your fault too is it, for being 'bad at it' ? Or it's your child's fault for having to sit in a crowded classroom full of children who don't speak English? :confused:

Wait, I suppose it's 'racist' to want your kids to be in classes with other kids who speak ENGLISH, so that their schooling isn't disrupted. Silly me.
 
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The whole jobs thing is just capitalism at work. We pay Polish people to do the work because it's cheaper than paying British people to do the work. Everyone wants British jobs for the British, but no one wants to pay the increased prices (and the shareholders don't want the reduced dividends) that using British workers would result in.

More rubbish. How can it be that I have worked doing blue collar jobs for low wages where all my colleagues were white British? Surely if you were right then we'd either have all been on great wages or we'd have needed immigrants to do the work?

I am sick of this unfair disparaging of the British worker as lazy and who will not work for low wages - most low paid jobs are still even now done by white British workers. This isn't just my opinion, check the government statistics.
 
More rubbish. How can it be that I have worked doing blue collar jobs for low wages where all my colleagues were white British? Surely if you were right then we'd either have all been on great wages or we'd have needed immigrants to do the work?

I am sick of this unfair disparaging of the British worker as lazy and who will not work for low wages - most low paid jobs are still even now done by white British workers. This isn't just my opinion, check the government statistics.

So why are immigrants used instead of british workers then? It's obviously happening, or people wouldn't go on about it. Either the workers are cheaper or they're more productive. Either way they're in some way more viable. If they're not why are they used?
 
So why are immigrants used instead of british workers then? It's obviously happening, or people wouldn't go on about it. Either the workers are cheaper or they're more productive. Either way they're in some way more viable. If they're not why are they used?

Because they are here. Just because worker A gets the job ahead of worker B, doesn't mean worker A is superior. Read some of Malc30's posts, someone who actually has experience of the subject and knows what he's talking about which is more than most here can say.
 
I suppose if you struggle to get a dentist because of the numbers of immigrants using them, that's your fault too is it,

Typical lazy cop out. Knee jerk response instead of actually looking for the real reasons. That's exactly how racist political groups do their recruiting.
 
Because they are here. Just because worker A gets the job ahead of worker B, doesn't mean worker A is superior. Read some of Malc30's posts, someone who actually has experience of the subject and knows what he's talking about which is more than most here can say.
You mean someone who has experienced something locally, and applies his experience to his politics and the entire country with the same brush? I'd rather listen to someone with reason and rationale.
 
Typical lazy cop out. Knee jerk response instead of actually looking for the real reasons. That's exactly how racist political groups do their recruiting.

Ha, I knew I'd be called racist for pointing out that the sheer numbers of immigrants have overwhelmed our public services like dentists and schools.
 
Ha, I knew I'd be called racist for pointing out that the sheer numbers of immigrants have overwhelmed our public services like dentists and schools.

That's far more down to the sheer number of natives who want the service but expect others to pay for it than immigrants... Especially as Labour have systematically replaced productive private sector employment with unproductive public sector employment...
 
That's far more down to the sheer number of natives who want the service but expect others to pay for it than immigrants... Especially as Labour have systematically replaced productive private sector employment with unproductive public sector employment...

So it isn't because of millions of immigrants coming here then. Silly me :)
 
Ha, I knew I'd be called racist for pointing out that the sheer numbers of immigrants have overwhelmed our public services like dentists and schools.

He didnt call you a racist...he just made a point and a valid one that this is how racists do their recruiting by exaggerating numbers and stats more importantly.

Seriously though let the BNP send em all back then see where this country ends up....probably up **** creek without a paddle...what ya'll gonna do without your fri night curries and kebabs eh??..whos gonna run the off licence shops that serves you your precious alcohol...whos gonna treat your drunken idiotic injuries in the middle of the night??...i think you get the gist...for one the NHS would come crashing down because you wont have enough doctors or nurses to treat people.
 
He didnt call you a racist...he just made a point and a valid one that this is how racists do their recruiting by exaggerating numbers and stats more importantly.

Seriously though let the BNP send em all back then see where this country ends up....probably up **** creek without a paddle...what ya'll gonna do without your fri night curries and kebabs eh??..whos gonna run the off licence shops that serves you your precious alcohol...whos gonna treat your drunken idiotic injuries in the middle of the night??...i think you get the gist...for one the NHS would come crashing down because you wont have enough doctors or nurses to treat people.

You're right. We never had anyone to run shops or our health service before we opened the immigration floodgates. It's amazing Britain managed to be a world superpower for centuries really isn't it, considering how lazy or useless we apparently are :)
 
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