Russian Dog Experiment (Video is fake)

Streeteh said:
I could speculate further and say that i see no reason why the experiment in the op isn't possible. If 'fresh' blood is kept flowing into the brain it could feasibly stay active as all the other organs do is clean the blood/replenish it with oxygen to keep the body alive. It's not as if the brain actually needs to be attached to any of these organs to work, it just needs a good blood supply. Easier said than done obviously.
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I'm sure this must have been attempted? Would be interesting to find out.
 
Surely that's a real dog and it's head isn't attached to anything?

Robert1986 said:
Video is fake, so don't worry about being grossed out. The experiments were real however.
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Where did you research this to find out that the video is fake and the experiment is real?
 
Robert1986 said:
Have you read the thread at all? The first dog is dead and has no body. The second dog in the video is just drugged and its head is poking through the table.
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Yes I read it, but I don't see any actual information on either the "real" experiment or concrete evidence that it's not a real severed head.
 
Why did they use two different dogs then? Why didn't they use different camera angles to show just exactly whats going on? Its a hoax. The experiments were real, the video is not.
 
Robert1986 said:
Why did they use two different dogs then? Why didn't they use different camera angles to show just exactly whats going on? Its a hoax. The experiments were real, the video is not.
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So the title should read "I THINK the video is fake and THINK that the experiment was real".

You have not noted any sources of where you got this information other than your own observation. Whether you are right or wrong I'm just taking issue with the fact that you have come to your own conclusions and presented them as fact, or refrained from posting an corroborating evidence.
 
Skyfall said:
So the title should read "I THINK the video is fake and THINK that the experiment was real".

You have not noted any sources of where you got this information other than your own observation. Whether you are right or wrong I'm just taking issue with the fact that you have come to your own conclusions and presented them as fact, or refrained from posting an corroborating evidence.
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The experiments were real, I am not denying that.

and here....

FACT OR FICTION?

Since its Prelinger Archives release, the film has provoked much controversy. Ken Smith, author of Mental Hygiene: Classroom Films 1945 - 1970, believes the film is fake. He mentions, among other things, that the decapitated dog scene shown in the film could have been produced with simple special effects. Others are skeptical of J. B. S. Haldane's ties to the Communist party;[citation needed] they propose that the film was produced as Soviet propaganda.

However, while the film could have been re-staged for the camera, it almost certainly depicts a series of real experiments. Bryukhonenko's work with canine circulation seems obscure today, but at the time was well publicized;[citation needed] his decapitation experiment was even remarked upon by George Bernard Shaw.[1] Bryukhonenko's procedures are attested to in numerous books and medical papers, with some sources providing detailed technical information on the operations shown in the film.[citation needed] These texts also shed light on failures not mentioned in the film. For example, the severed heads survived only minutes in artificial circulation, while the resuscitated dogs often died after a few days[citation needed] while the film says the severed heads lived for hours and the resuscitated dogs lived for years.

There are also certain anatomical issues that were ignored such as the fact draining blood from the circulatory system causes the vessels to collapse which would make reintroduction of blood as depicted in the film difficult if not impossible.[citation needed] Also the procedure with severed head only mentioned oxygenated blood being fed back into the severed head. Neural cells require other components besides just oxygen to survive and function properly for anything but the briefest time. Also, the head jerks and moves at some moments, which would be impossible without the neck muscles attached to the torso and spinal bones. It seems likely that while the experiments were really carried out, the operation depicted in the video was staged for the purpose of producing this science film.

Bryukhonenko's research was vital to the development of open-heart procedures in Russia. He was one of the leaders of the Research Institute of Experimental Surgery, where Professor A.A. Vishnevsky performed the first Soviet open-heart operation in 1957.[citation needed] Bryukhonenko developed a new version of the autojektor (for use on humans) in the same year; it can be seen today on display at the Museum of Cardiovascular Surgery at the Scientific Center of Cardiovascular Surgery in Russia.[2] Bryukhonenko was awarded the prestigious Lenin Prize posthumously[3].
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiments_in_the_Revival_of_Organisms
 
vincent1989 said:
the fact that people are sick enough to dream up and carry out experiments like this is exactly why i have no faith in humanity
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The fact that people carry out these experiments that make modern medicine what it is today.

The fact that animals are experimented on for medical purposes is lost when you look at the bigger picture.

Experiments like this, and others have benifitted millions and millions of people, probably people you know, or are related to.
 
Could we install all the stuff inside the dogs head? Sow it all up and let the dog grow legs/or attach from it's head?

We'd need a name first.
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Yea thats what you need. The name first.......
*Facepalm*
 
Streeteh said:
Very true, and funny you should mention that. I say this as only a couple of weeks back i saw a mini documentary where some dude (i forget his name) was going around with two charity pots. One was for Oxfam, the other for one of those dog charities you see all the adverts for on daytime television. He gave each person a pound and asked them to put it in the pot of their choice, i was horrified to see that out of the 50 or so he asked, less than half put the money in the oxfam pot.

I just didn't get it.
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It's because of the adverts/connotations. ... poor dogs by the side of the road getting rescued is cute, but seeing African babies dying is discomforting and makes us feel uneasy so we choose to ignore it. Oh, and dying babies isn't cute either.

I found the video quite interesting, and I wonder if anyone could do it for real, so in a couple of years time I could buy myself a lovely new robot body and keep the human emotion that cybermen lack! But with all the mind control technology etc coming on I don't see a reason why this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

I suppose a couple of years is a little ambitious, but 30 years maybe?
 
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