UKIP a serious alternative?

Basher · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:52

Tute said:
Of course you'll get the diehard Labour supporters denouncing their plans as "unworkable" .

Do you think the plans are "workable"?

Tute · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:52

Burnsy2023 said:
People seem to be confused. This is the European elections not a general election.

How do UKIP's policies differ between the two?

Also I see no mention directly of the European elections in the OP, as well as the fact that a General Election is coming in the next year or so, so this is entirely relevant!

Tute · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:53

Basher said:
Do you think the plans are "workable"?

More so than crossing our fingers and throwing taxpayer money at anything we come up against.

Basher · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:55

Tute said:
More so than crossing our fingers and throwing taxpayer money at anything we come up against.

And how exactly do you think they'll fund this?

RDM · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:55

Tute said:
More so than crossing our fingers and throwing taxpayer money at anything we come up against.

How? They are proposing considerably more spending yet at the same time considerably less taxation? How is that in any way workable?

CaptainComedy · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:56

Tute said:
More so than crossing our fingers and throwing taxpayer money at anything we come up against.

Agreed tbh, although I know thats not the case, there is just WAY too many stealth taxes that really arent relevant to a lot of people. If they are going to tax us, tax us and call it TAX. Not "you've-earned-some-money-from-the-lottery-and-put-it-in-a-nice-investment tax"

Im really sick of it. and then we see these stupid claims by these mps..... THEY TUK AR JAAAAABS!

alexakasloth · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:57

Some ideas I will admit are good but on the whole I see no justification for halting immigration for 5 years, or for leaving the EU.

RDM said:
How? They are proposing considerably more spending yet at the same time considerably less taxation? How is that in any way workable?

I doubt it is but a lot of people want to hear it and are willing to give blind faith.

Tute · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:58

Basher said:
And how exactly do you think they'll fund this?

RDM said:
How? They are proposing considerably more spending yet at the same time considerably less taxation? How is that in any way workable?

Money saved by leaving the EU will be a good start.

Stolly · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:58

Seems to me they want to spend more and tax less.

I wonder how that would work out.

DanTheMan · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:59

Looks like the same sort of thing as communism to me, good on paper but would never work in practice.

'If it looks too good to be true, it probably is'

Basher · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:59

Tute said:
Money saved by leaving the EU will be a good start.

And where will the rest come from?

Stolly · 1 Jun 2009 at 19:59

Tute said:
Money saved by leaving the EU will be a good start.

Which would save how much exactly ?

Remember we get a lot back from the EU. It doesn't all go into the bank accounts of French farmers.

Tute · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:03

Basher said:
And where will the rest come from?

Did you read the OP?

There's plenty there that will save the UK money.

What do you propose anyway? Let Brown and his idiots send the country down the pan?

8balled · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:05

They could probably save billions from the holiday camps, i mean prisons we currently have. blah blah, rehabilitation. I've had mates go through it and not for trivial things either, they come out and do the same old same old.

DAnDan · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:06

I'm sure a nice chunk of money could be saved by cutting benefits to those who refuse to work. That's some money that could be put to better use if they decided to.

Fido McNasty · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:06

Burnsy2023 said:
We don't have fusion power yet

Don't we?

oh.. Maybe we could invent that

DSherry · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:07

Tute said:
They're getting my vote. At least they have a Manifesto, which is more than can be said for the other major parties, who just propose to do nothing.

Of course you'll get the diehard Labour supporters denouncing their plans as "unworkable" - but compared to what? Taxing the country to death to keep some greedy banks going? No thanks.

It is important we keep the "banks" as the financial industry was/is one of the only strengths of the UK.

Also Scotland and the North Sea is arguably the most prime (and feasible) location for wind farms on the entire planet, so actually specifically targeting wind power as an energy resource they will stop production of is retarded.

CaptainComedy · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:09

Stolly said:
Which would save how much exactly ?

Remember we get a lot back from the EU. It doesn't all go into the bank accounts of French farmers.

It also goes to their bakers too.

but tbh, I think the labour has had their time and people newer parties know how to improve what we have where as labour and conservative really dont have an idea nor do they seem to have a plan to reform.

I'd have been sold if they actually explained a little to each of their propositions. but saying "scrap the human rights act" is like making judge dredd priminister.

Alex UK · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:09

[TW]Fox;14191418 said:
Parties like this will never be elected so I don't waste my time thinking about them. We have a two party system in the UK.

I wouldn't be so sure. A poll out today puts both Labour and the Lib Dems at 18%.

Dunks · 1 Jun 2009 at 20:13

Alex UK said:
I wouldn't be so sure. A poll out today puts both Labour and the Lib Dems at 18%.

Source?