The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Sorry if I am badgering you, I didn't know you were uncomfortable - as you have said that you are, I will happily refrain from asking your views on police related matters from now on :)

I don't mind being asked dd but I do get p'd off when I am expected to answer on behalf of 150,000 cops nationwide and cop flak for peoples' bad experiences with the police.

What the **** do people expect me to do about it ?

I offer advice and information when people want it. No more no less.
 
I don't mind being asked dd but I do get p'd off when I am expected to answer on behalf of 150,000 cops nationwide and cop flak for peoples' bad experiences with the police.

What the **** do people expect me to do about it ?

I offer advice and information when people want it. No more no less.

I certainly wasn't aiming any flak in your direction personally, even if it came across that way and I know you don't make the rules, you are just bound by them.
 
It's because i've been repeating the same thing over and over again.

Ah, I understand now.

You may dislike immigration, that's ok.

I dislike the current system, I think it lets in too many undesirables (and we have enough here already! ha!)

The message is i have tolerate all views, even right wing views. If i didn't i would contradict myself of being tolerant.

if i forced someone to march on a gay parade, that would be forcing someone to do something discrediting there freedom .

Absolutely. And it incidents such as those fireman being threatened with the sack for not going on a gay march that is fuel for the extremists getting power.

On the other hand you can not stop someone going on the gay parade because that would discredit there freedom. Which extreme right wing partys would do.

I agree, it should be down to choice. But you find that extreme left wing parties are exactly the same. Being forced not to have one, or being forced to go on one. Both the same thing, removal of freedom.
 
Ah yes, I remember, where every copper was a racist. Please. More left wing guardian propaganda, more jobs for "social inclusion managers" and the expansion of the state. Just like all the jobs the British don't want to do. A complete myth and fallacy, and also insulting to the majority of coppers who were not racists.

If you say so...

http://www.law.cf.ac.uk/tlru/Lawrence.pdf

I do not read the Guardian, nor do I have an agenda, nor does anyone, as far as I know, believe the majority of the police to be racist.

I feel sorry that you see things the way you want to see them.
 
How about a copper that lets his religion get in the way. For example, two muslim police officers attend a domestic assault between two muslims. They arrive and decide to let the "families" deal with this via "sharia" law.

If they ignored a domestic assault then they should answer for it. Sharia Law does not take precedence over UK law.

How is that different than suggesting a copper voting BNP will go out and beat up black people for fun. I would suggest that the former is more likely to happen rather than the latter as the latter would get found out a lot more quickly than the former. In fact, the former is an issue where child abuse occurs but the social workers don't want to get involved due to PC worries about offending religion.

Politics clouds common sense and will continue to do so.



That's understandable. But why should you be fired if you got found out voting Lib Dems, or worse, The Greens? You might go round smashing up cafes and resteraunts and nicking people coming out of McDonalds! :)

There's a thought.



I did, and in hindsight it was low, but it does grate on my nerves when I witness one way prejudice. I don't vote BNP by the way. :)[/QUOTE]
 
I certainly wasn't aiming any flak in your direction personally, even if it came across that way and I know you don't make the rules, you are just bound by them.

The police force, believe it or not, is a disciplined service and you have to accept restrictions in your private and professional life.

Nature of the beast.
 
I agree, it should be down to choice. But you find that extreme left wing parties are exactly the same.

Then there are not true left wing, since how can they say they are tolerant. They may disagree with right wing persons view, since they hate people who violate others peoples freedom. However they can not force that person to leave there job, because that just leads to breaking there freedom.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

There actually fascists in away because they won't allow his view point.

However if that right wing person happens to act on his view, and violates someone else's freedom. Say forcing them to move.

Then they have a valid argument to act upon.

This is why communism got a bad name, because they killed people who did not agree. Exactly what happened with china and those students.

But since they did not tolerate those people, it wasn't true communism.

I would never actually want kill all right wing members. However i can not say the opposite, due to websites like red watch which publicly want to beat up left wing hippy's.
 
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If they don't join the BNP and keep their BNP sympathies to themselves, and don't let it affect their performance in the job, is there any reason why they shouldn't be permitted to vote BNP, in the privacy and sanctity of the polling booth?

I wouldn't want racist policemen patrolling our towns and cities.
 
I wouldn't want racist policemen patrolling our towns and cities.

If you think about, could you tell the difference if they did there job professionally and did not let there views interfere with there job?

I think most racists would actually act on there views, and get fired anyway. Since they are not doing there job without bias.
 
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Two things worry me about society today

1. A serving police officer finds it impossible to seperate personal prejudice from professional service - you have prejudice, I have prejudice, admit it and deal with it. Pretending you don't have it is a sinful deceit.

2. Any sentient being thinks nick griffin is impressive - he's a buffoon who makes me proud of the guy serving my macdonalds.
 
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