The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

deuse · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:44

AtreuS said:
Then campaign to get the BNP made illegal.

To think you can decide what is best for everyone else based on the views of one group is not democracy.

I agree that the BNP needs banning, they are racist and dont deny it.

However until they ARE made illegal then as a democracy we are being totally hippocritical to suggest that they should be silenced just because they oppose other political views.

If you cant see that then there is no point even discussing the matter.

You are being hippocritical by saying they should ban something that you dont agree on
then talking about democracy. You cant have it both ways.

How about banning the tories? there CSA law lead to 6 suicides by fathers.
Even though maggie the hun admitted she had got it wrong but did not say sorry to the children left behind.

You could say the same about labour.

semi-pro waster · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:46

v0n said:
There is nothing wrong about being patriot. Everything is wrong about being nationalist. It's almost alike settle difference between being wine connoisseur and being regular s***faced drunk.

The problem is sometimes determining on which side of the line people fall though, particularly when people often appropriate the term for their own ends.

daz · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:46

Doctor_Zhivago said:
Ummm a doctor doing his job would be sticking to his Hippocratic Oath (before it was raped by the left) Your moral choice if you want to die not the doctors and should never play a part in it.
If he cared for people he wouldn't be murdering defenceless foetus' (foetus being latin little person)

Euthanasia is a massive issue within the medical community and is debated among doctors over the rights and wrongs. It is a very sensitive issue - there's hardly what you could call consensus in the worldwide medical community.

deuse · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:47

Dolph said:
Judging the impact the person's position could have on your business. YES.

So your a money only man?
what ever you have to do or back to make money thats ok?
Only 1 person Judges me and thats GOD.

Monkey Puzzle · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:49

Dolph said:
What about care for the person rather than the parasite?

Lol Dolph you old romantic you!

Dolph · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:50

deuse said:
So your a money only man?
what ever you have to do or back to make money thats ok?
Only 1 person Judges me and thats GOD.

Far from it, but when making business decisions, it's an important consideration as to what image you wish the company to portray, and how that engages the customer.

If your personal allegiences or activities impact the company and therefore reduce it's value, then unless you've got highly expensive to replace skills, you are not a good employee to keep.

Inquisitor · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:50

Can I just take a moment correct this ridiculous spelling mistake? It's hypocritical, not hippocritical :confused:

Dolph · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:51

Inquisitor said:
Can I just take a moment correct this ridiculous spelling mistake? It's hypocritical, not hippocritical

How dare you, Hippos have rights too!

Inquisitor · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:53

I suppose I was being a little over-critical of the hippo – some might say… hippo-critical

dirtydog · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:54

Dolph said:
How dare you, Hippos have rights too!

You're the last person to talk with your grasp of apostrophes

deuse · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:54

Just like the Maggie the Hun flyers
" We won't raise taxes " " We will get people back to work" " We won't close 20 more coal mines "

daz · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:55

deuse said:
Just like the Maggie the Hun flyers
" We won't raise taxes " " We will get people back to work" " We won't close 20 more coal mines "

Maggie Thatcher sorted out the country so that we were no longer the sick man of Western Europe.

deuse · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:58

Dolph said:
Far from it, but when making business decisions, it's an important consideration as to what image you wish the company to portray, and how that engages the customer.

If your personal allegiences or activities impact the company and therefore reduce it's value, then unless you've got highly expensive to replace skills, you are not a good employee to keep.

OK.. so if the tide turns and its ok to do what you say is not ok to do now would do it?
What ever political correctness is at that time companys will do it.

As I say for the sake of money..

Dolph · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:58

daz said:
Maggie Thatcher sorted out the country so that we were no longer the sick man of Western Europe.

And it's going to take equal hardship to sort out the mess that Blair/Brown will be leaving the country... One day people will learn Labour cannot run a bath, let alone a country, it would be funny if this hadn't been the third time out of three long stints in government that labour had left the country teetering on economic ruin...

Delvis · 6 Jun 2009 at 13:59

Dolph said:
And it's going to take equal hardship to sort out the mess that Blair/Brown will be leaving the country... One day people will learn Labour cannot run a bath, let alone a country, it would be funny if this hadn't been the third time out of three long stints in government that labour had left the country teetering on economic ruin...

Out of interest, when will we actually know who's won over-all? And if a new party is to lead?

Dolph · 6 Jun 2009 at 14:00

deuse said:
OK.. so if the tide turns and its ok to do what you say is not ok to do now
you would do it?

As I say for the sake of money..

I would happily allow companies more freedom in all manner of choices of how they do business, provided their policies were made clear.

this stance is not just about the BNP...

dirtydog · 6 Jun 2009 at 14:01

Dolph said:
And it's going to take equal hardship to sort out the mess that Blair/Brown will be leaving the country... One day people will learn Labour cannot run a bath, let alone a country, it would be funny if this hadn't been the third time out of three long stints in government that labour had left the country teetering on economic ruin...

But people like Cameron and the shadow chancellor who have never had a job outside politics will have all the answers

Dolph · 6 Jun 2009 at 14:01

Delvis said:
Out of interest, when will we actually know who's won over-all? And if a new party is to lead?

This wasn't a general election, so when Brown actually calls one of those (or is forced in to one by a vote of no confidence).

Results for the EU elections should be released tomorrow, which could be very interesting...

deuse · 6 Jun 2009 at 14:01

daz said:
Maggie Thatcher sorted out the country so that we were no longer the sick man of Western Europe.

Now your in denial.
But at least she has 1 fan left

daz · 6 Jun 2009 at 14:01

Dolph said:
And it's going to take equal hardship to sort out the mess that Blair/Brown will be leaving the country... One day people will learn Labour cannot run a bath, let alone a country, it would be funny if this hadn't been the third time out of three long stints in government that labour had left the country teetering on economic ruin...

On the one hand you can see massive improvements in a lot of public services. Whether those improvements are value for money, is questionable. Obviously the funding in tough times won't be sustainable so it will be interesting to see if we can eliminate a massive amount of the inefficiency inherent in such large systems/organisations, whilst still maintaing a good level of service in areas such as health.