The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

mattheman said:
britain is a soft totalitarian state and Totalitarian democracy
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I wouldn't go that far.............. yet :p

But we are fast becoming that way... certainly the last few years have seen, in my opinion a complete disregard for democratic principles that the general public are sitting back and allowing to happen. If the current trend continues then I think the above would be a fair assessment in times to come !
 
AtreuS said:
By the same logic we should also ban anyone who is a member of the conservative or labour party as well.
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I can't say I concur.

Nitefly said:
RDM said:
But surely the same could be said with regards to membership of other political parties? Can we trust a communist police officer in certain circumstances? It should be all political party membership banned or no political party membership banned.
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I don't think the issue is black and white, more that there is a sliding scale of acceptability.

Assuming a police officer supports communism, that doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be more harsh on a wealthy person. Being a communist doesn't automatically mean that you hate capitalists.

Assuming a police officer is a member of the BNP, a party which doesn't let black people join (something which is openly racist), it might be more reasonable to assume that his views might affect his behaviour when dealing with a black man.

I am aware there is a very fine distinction between the two, but I think the distinction can be made.
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dirtydog said:
Criticism is one thing, that is free speech. Sacking someone for supporting a lawful political party? :eek: What the hell is this, China? Nazi Germany?
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In china you could get locked up or shot for your beliefs, The BNP have freedom of speech. They have racially bias views and beliefs which might conflict with some job descriptions especially the ethics of nursing.
 
daz said:
The main things that people moan about on these forums - typically state intervention within private lives, would be greater under the BNP.
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So True. I can't believe people are willing to vote for a party who once in power will tell them who they can and cannot get married to.
 
Nitefly said:
I can't say I concur.
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But every current viable political party agrees to uphold the current law.

Are you suggesting by being a member of the BNP party that it automatically means they would break the current set of laws?

In that case, why aren't these people being arrested? Oh wait. Because they are not breaking any laws. And they don't intend to. Not any more or less than any other political party member.
 
Nitefly said:
I can't say I concur.
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Then campaign to get the BNP made illegal.

To think you can decide what is best for everyone else based on the views of one group is not democracy.

I agree that the BNP needs banning, they are racist and dont deny it.

However until they ARE made illegal then as a democracy we are being totally hippocritical to suggest that they should be silenced just because they oppose other political views.

If you cant see that then there is no point even discussing the matter.
 
chiLLZ said:
In china you could get locked up or shot for your beliefs, The BNP have freedom of speech. They have racially bias views and beliefs which might conflict with some job descriptions especially the ethics of nursing.
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So fire the individual for breaking the rules. Dont just assume they WILL break rules because they have a membership of a political party.
 
NiCkNaMe said:
But every current viable political party agrees to uphold the current law.

Are you suggesting by being a member of the BNP party that it automatically means they would break the current set of laws?

In that case, why aren't these people being arrested? Oh wait. Because they are not breaking any laws. And they don't intend to.
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I'm not suggesting that any individual would necessarily break any laws, no. I am merely expressing that it is not difficult to see why some might see a BNP membership as an indicator as to how such a person would exercise his or her discretion.
 
AtreuS said:
Then campaign to get the BNP made illegal.

To think you can decide what is best for everyone else based on the views of one group is not democracy.

I agree that the BNP needs banning, they are racist and dont deny it.

However until they ARE made illegal then as a democracy we are being totally hippocritical to suggest that they should be silenced just because they oppose other political views.

If you cant see that then there is no point even discussing the matter.
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I'm not really sure how to interpret your post.

I don't for one moment think the BNP should be made illegal. Everyone has the right to join any political party of their choice. However, if such a man joins a political party which has policies which conflict with those of his employer, then he has little reason to complain. It was, after all, his choice to freely join that party and he should therefore embrace the consequences that follow.

NB - There is a difference between middle of the road politics and racism, as aformentioned.
 
All these lefty doctors thinking abortions are moral and helping their patients commit suicide. I'd rather have a Bible preaching right wing doctor that kept to his hippocritic oath.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion
 
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AtreuS said:
So fire the individual for breaking the rules. Dont just assume they WILL break rules because they have a membership of a political party.
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Why should they be employed when there is a conflict in ethics and intrest. In a interview people get rejected for less.
 
Doctor_Zhivago said:
All these lefty doctors thinking abortions are moral and helping their patients commit suicide. I'd rather have a Bible preaching right wing doctor that kept to his hippocritic oath.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion
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I don't think discrimination against the hippopotamus should be allowed either.
 
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