Tube Strike -- 9th-11th

Is it not a bit silly to always back someone's right to withdraw their labour, presumably regardless of the situation?

The fact it's so powerful is ultimately the reason why this seemingly instant strike threat is so wrong. By all means go through all the channels and then decide to strike if you really must (not sure I'd agree with it either though) but according to TFL they won't even enter into negotiations and have thrown a very good offer straight out.
 
Mad old tory said:
Unpaid? Pretty poor attitude imo.
Click to expand...

More then likley unpaid because im classed as a full time casual.


But id still take it, not to protest but just because the strike is getting me off work for a few days.

If you have ever worked at a quarry then you may understand how nice it is to stay at home and not be out in a crap old dump truck getting coverd in greese oil and dust and diesel all day long:p
 
Mad old tory said:
Anybody who strikes, does so unpaid unless I'm very much mistaken.
Click to expand...

Even unpaid though, what im saying is if every one else is off striking id jone in the fun too.

And to be rewarded witht he possibility of getting a pay rise after all that? WIN!:D

Although it does **** me when people that are already on quite a good wage go on strike for more money
 
Mad old tory said:
Is it not a bit silly to always back someone's right to withdraw their labour, presumably regardless of the situation?

The fact it's so powerful is ultimately the reason why this seemingly instant strike threat is so wrong. By all means go through all the channels and then decide to strike if you really must (not sure I'd agree with it either though) but according to TFL they won't even enter into negotiations and have thrown a very good offer straight out.
Click to expand...
But its a tactic isn't it.

We always reject the first offer of a payrise when negotiations start.

I may well be anti-establishment though, I think the bosses where I work are a collective of ladies sexual organs.
 
Zip said:
Although it does **** me when people that are already on quite a good wage go on strike for more money
Click to expand...
There is always a much, much bigger picture though. People have to be extremely niave to think that people strike for pay rises alone because in the long run the money that they lose when they aren't working will never be covered by any raises that their action has earned.

In most cases the people in management making the decisions are taking a free ride off of the hard work of those who they are trying to deny. White collar people wouldn't cope with a days work in many industries.
 
I do wonder if the people striking are doing so for any reason other than to have a little time off. Lets face it they can afford it.
 
wormwood said:
I do wonder if the people striking are doing so for any reason other than to have a little time off. Lets face it they can afford it.
Click to expand...
Maybe so but I daresay they enjoy chucking a spanner in the works too and making their employers sweat.

Plus it also sorts the men from the boys as those spineless scabs who break the strike show their faces.
 
Funny that, I'd see the scabs as the only ones with balls to be honest. It takes guts to go against your peers even when you know they are in the wrong.
 
This really sucks, I'm travelling up from below Guildford to take a friend to Wembley for England-Andorra for his birthday. Getting back to Waterloo for the last train could prove very hard meaning we're stranded up there! :(

I know this strike will be worse for some of you needing to get to work but still, argh!:mad:

There are other ways to bring about discussion on pay and conditions than punish millions of people.
 
Jeff Lynne said:
White collar people wouldn't cope with a days work in many industries.
Click to expand...

Holy generalisation batman!

I'm a white collar worker, well a doctor - whatever that makes me - and i've had more than a fair share of ****ty, dirty hard working jobs to pay for my education and training to get me where i am now.

Unions serve their purpose sometimes, and i'm a believer they shouldnt be eradicated, but imo their net effect is detrimental to the welfare of "the man"

just like prohibiting free trade is a surefire way to kill an economy.
 
dowie said:
The sooner we can get automated trains on there or semi automated (DLR style - with some **** to push a button to open the doors) the better.
Click to expand...
The '*****' on the DLR have to know how to drive their trains from the locked control panel at the front if the automatic driving screws up. There's no getting around needing skilled staff to do the job and just as well - I wouldn't want a bag packer having responsibility for driving any train that I was on.
 
wormwood said:
Funny that, I'd see the scabs as the only ones with balls to be honest. It takes guts to go against your peers even when you know they are in the wrong.
Click to expand...
You see thats the problem with society today. What to do? Stick together or think ME, ME, ME?

And you think the latter is the good guy?
 
Jeff Lynne said:
You see thats the problem with society today. What to do? Stick together or think ME, ME, ME?

And you think the latter is the good guy?
Click to expand...

No, you seem to though. You seem to think that a bunch of people who are already well paid and are over employed deserve to have yet more money, more time off and not lose any surplus jobs they have. If that isn't ME, ME, ME as you put it then I don't know what is.

Oh and Jeff, come and do a hard days work for me one day and see what it is like to do a real hard days work for little pay and not have the option to go on strike at all....
 
GOD DAMN ************* unions ... I thought Thatcher wiped them all out? Can someone finish the job please :(

Unions had their place before we had a proper system in place to protect workers rights ... now that we have employment tribunals and plenty of legislation relating to working conditions, pay, and so on there is no need for unions any more.
 
wormwood said:
No, you seem to though. You seem to think that a bunch of people who are already well paid and are over employed deserve to have yet more money, more time off and not lose any surplus jobs they have. If that isn't ME, ME, ME as you put it then I don't know what is.

Oh and Jeff, come and do a hard days work for me one day and see what it is like to do a real hard days work for little pay and not have the option to go on strike at all....
Click to expand...
Please don't twist my post. People who cross official picket lines are thinking of themselves and themselves alone. They weaken the strength that those who are making the sacrifice have and when all's said and done reap the benefits of anything that is achieved by the industrial action as well as getting paid for crossing the picket line too.

That kind of selfish behaviour shouldn't be tolerated. And it certainly shouldn't be promoted as a good thing to impressionable young minds on internet forums.
 
Jeff Lynne said:
Please don't twist my post. People who cross official picket lines are thinking of themselves and themselves alone. They weaken the strength that those who are making the sacrifice have and when all's said and done reap the benefits of anything that is achieved by the industrial action as well as getting paid for crossing the picket line too.

That kind of selfish behaviour shouldn't be tolerated. And it certainly shouldn't be promoted as a good thing to impressionable young minds on internet forums.
Click to expand...

I vote your username be changed to :rolleyes:
 
Utter tosh, someone actually fulfilling their working obligations deserves far more respect than those walking out when a perfectly good offer is on the table.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom