International matches 6th-10th **Spoilers**

drunkenmaster said:
truly terrible performance, a massive deflection on Gerrards "shot" (not sure what it was, wasn't going near a England player initially) still needed a completely useless keeper to fail to catch it easily.

Theo, Johnson(15mil, you're having a laugh), Heskey, Barry, Gerrard have all been embarassingly poor, barely seen Gerrard on the left which he frequently leaves for Cole to cover the entire left side alone.

ALso yes it does matter, if you can't play good football here, or anywhere, you won't win the world cup. Capello game after game picks a crap team thats simply incapable of winning a world cup, he isn't game by game getting closer to building a great team, which is a huge problem. AT some point the team has to improve if its ever going to win anything, one off game where they suck and lose isn't even a problem, non improving crap football game after game IS a monumental problem in terms of lifting the cup.
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Are you ever content about a performance/manager. We're top of the group and are winning games. Sure it wasn't a great win but who cares, it was in bloody Kazakhstan where we would have lost/drawn against McLaren or Sven.
 
Mad old tory said:
Are you ever content about a performance/manager. We're top of the group and are winning games. Sure it wasn't a great win but who cares, it was in bloody Kazakhstan where we would have lost/drawn against McLaren or Sven.
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are you ever not content with beating utterly utterly crap sides? Is Italy, Germany, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, France, etc, etc in our groups, have we beaten any of them, no you say? we're scraping second half wins against pee poor sides time and time again.

The problem is, as I said, had we lost today, it wouldn't have mattered in the slightest, the very best team in the world can lose to a crap team in a single game. A completely average team CAN NOT beat a whole host of fantastic teams in a row through purely luck. Winning against the sides in our group means absolutely squat, its a world cup, theres one winner, we don't have a hope in hell of winning. SO no i'm not content with having no chance of winning the world cup, beyond a mathematical chance that is.

The team shows entirely NO IMPROVEMENT from game to game, infact from his first game to now the team looks identical, its the same setup that McClown/Sven would have been picking, theres very little change, the truly hopeless performances aren't rewarded with being kicked off the team, they get more starts, over and over.

I'd be happier losing games with the team actually showing signs of improving, than easily winning against some of the worlds worst teams, maybe even getting worse from game to game, Capello showing no signs of dropping our crap players, and with no realistic chance of winning diddly squat at the world cup.

Lets see, for the past 20 years fans have been completely happy with crap performances as long as we qualify, then get all peed off in the world cup/euro's when we do smeg all. Maybe just maybe the entire nations, press's, fa's and managers ethos should change. Maybe we, and by we, I mean you of course, SHOULDN'T be happy with crappy wins against crappy sides with a team showing no sign of beating the worlds best.

You can't qualify with a crap team then play 2 friendlies with a brand new setup and hope to win a cup, thats not how life works, the team we build NOW has to be capable of winning the cup, and its not, theres really nothing else to it.

We were outplayed all game by the worlds 132nd team, they played better football, fouled less, dived less, tried harder, ran more, and passed better with better creativity and more discipline than we managed to muster. If you're happy with any of that, you'll be happy to see England go out the first time we come up against a decent side.
 
Hey Drunken did gerard bully you at school as you never have anything good to say about him. Did you watch the same game as the rest of us? To say they played better football all game despite losing 0-4 is wrong, you must have been listening to much to fergie
 
63,000 tickets have been sold for the game tonight and I think there's another 10k or so of the Wembley season ticket holders who might want to go so it's going to be a frustrating night's travel for lots of them, if they can make it all because of the train strike :(

It might be frustrating on the pitch too, Andorra defend with 10 men and that's all they do.
 
Beckham and Johnson starting:

Green, Johnson, A Cole, Gerrard, Lescott, Terry, Beckham, Lampard, Crouch, Rooney, Walcott.

Subs: Robinson, Neville, Bridge, Young, Wright-Phillips, Defoe, C Cole.

That's in shirt number order by the way:)
 
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