The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

daz said:
The BNP being elected is a very sad day for Britain. Looks like they've managed to pull the wool over a lot of voters' eyes over who they truly are.
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Actually, they have lesser vote than they had 5 years ago.
The only ones to blame are the voters who refused to vote!
 
Mr Jones said:
Actually, they have lesser vote than they had 5 years ago.
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As has been said many times before less votes on a smaller turnout, who is to say that with a bigger turnout they wouldn't have gotten a much bigger share of the vote? and lets not forget in the North West there was mini bus loads of Asian voters being brought into the voting stations to vote labour "to keep out the BNP" as one of them stated (was shown on newsnight), and the BNP still got someone elected
 
Angilion said:
I'd add some longer-term research with potential practical applications to the list.

For example, St Andrews university has a research team currently developing a new type of battery. It's not purely blue sky research - they have working prototypes. Compared to lithium-ion batteries, the battery they're working on should be much cheaper to make, use a smaller amount of relatively scarce materials, have a charge to weight ratio between 5 and 10 times higher and be able to be charged several times faster. It's the charge to weight ratio that's the key factor, because it makes high-capacity battery swapping at petrol stations practical, which is a huge step towards making electric cars practical. There's a huge market for the battery, which the team is developing with a budget of just £1.5M. A sum which is trifling for the government could speed up research by adding people and facilities to the project, thus generating some jobs immediately and improving the chances of the project creating a product significantly better than its competition, which could result in more jobs and a lot of profit in years to come.

The UK is still notorious for inventive ideas that are underfunded or unfunded and which people from other countries turn into profitable products. Government investment could change that. Many such ideas fail to make anything useful, but it's worth funding a lot of them because the ones that do result in something useful can more than recoup the research costs for all of them.

The central database scheme (the "ID card" scheme that actually has very little to do with ID cards) is likely to cost £15 Billion to set up and at least £500M a year to run, probably more. That money wasted on that could fund many hundreds of research projects, every one a potential goldmine.
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I agree most if not all in some area the rights have been purchased from stem cell research by foreign companies, was at kings the other day, inorder to get funding they need to sell the rights. As you say billions wasted on civil servant id etc... could be better used in these areas infact it would generate more jobs in the long term.

Now refering to the BNP if you heard his speech, you'll know other politicians are running scared, not because they are scared of what they think the bnp are but because of what the bnp will uncover. and yes i voted bnp because iam sick about the way in which this country has been run.
 
digipeep said:
Lancashire is about to shame us the same as Yorkshire folk right now as Nick Griffiths is going to be elected.

It's official Labour lost a seat to the BNP in the Northwest.

Fascist scum.
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digipeep said:
What the **** is wrong with people in the North to allow fascist scum get into parliament. I thought the North was a Labour heartland.

I really just don't understand people who live in the North.
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:rolleyes:

fascist scum
 
daz said:
The BNP being elected is a very sad day for Britain. Looks like they've managed to pull the wool over a lot of voters' eyes over who they truly are.
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Oh right. Just like every other political party in existance today then.

I think we need a new populace vote. Whether the people of Britain actually want to continue being a democratic nation. The way a vast number of people are acting you'd prefer a dictatorship :(
 
You BNP drum bangers are doing nothing to move away from the stereotype - all of your posts highlight your ignorance, abrasiveness and lack of intelligence. It's probably a good thing that you spout your unreasoned bile here so that people see what a bunch of cretins you are.

The issue you have with a funeral service offering Asian funerals perfectly illustrates the (lack of thought) process! Different cultures observe different traditions and for a business to advertise it is able to observe a particular set of traditions is not racist, just informative. What if you were to accidentally use the service to bury your dear old grans, only to find that the proprietor had a funeral pyre and spoke in Gujarati? Well, seeing as your blood is already boiling with righteous indignation and a lust for white power I suspect you would be rather upset.

BNP supporters are making fools of themselves. Not difficult given the raw materials.

I was in Germany last week at the Eagle's Nest, Hitler's mountain retreat, personally I think Hitler was a bit of a wrongun, but no doubt you people would have been first in line for the SS uniforms and ready with your tin openers to uncork the Zyklon B.
 
daz said:
Most immigrants are economic migrants. This means they are here working, paying taxes and contributing to the economy.
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how many bring there families over who then claim for everything, when They have paid none or hardly anything into the system. My own brother who has worked for 15 years was recently told he was unable to claim when made redundant.

daz said:
The BNP are essentially fascist. They would like more state control in your private life, more state control within business.
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The Labour Liberal fascists are the real worrry.
 
NiCkNaMe said:
LOL Skidder. That's quite uncanny... I was waiting to see an ignoramus come in and compare the BNP to the Nazi's. That's made my day, thanks. :D
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You probably can't tell when people are poking fun at you rather than making a serious comparison. I refer you to my point about intelligence.
 
You have to actually love the fact that despite all the problems and protest voting, the BNP only managed to increase their percentage share of the vote by 1.6%. If ever there was an example of their irrelevance and lack of popular support, this has to be it.

Shame the voting system gave them two seats for such a paltry vote share though (6.5% of the vote)
 
Skidder said:
You BNP drum bangers are doing nothing to move away from the stereotype - all of your posts highlight your ignorance, abrasiveness and lack of intelligence. It's probably a good thing that you spout your unreasoned bile here so that people see what a bunch of cretins you are.

The issue you have with a funeral service offering Asian funerals perfectly illustrates the (lack of thought) process! Different cultures observe different traditions and for a business to advertise it is able to observe a particular set of traditions is not racist, just informative. What if you were to accidentally use the service to bury your dear old grans, only to find that the proprietor had a funeral pyre and spoke in Gujarati? Well, seeing as your blood is already boiling with righteous indignation and a lust for white power I suspect you would be rather upset.

BNP supporters are making fools of themselves. Not difficult given the raw materials.

I was in Germany last week at the Eagle's Nest, Hitler's mountain retreat, personally I think Hitler was a bit of a wrongun, but no doubt you people would have been first in line for the SS uniforms and ready with your tin openers to uncork the Zyklon B.
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Before you start going on about hitler, you should really put the blame on the UK US etc... hitler can't be blamed, the german people can't be blamed UK/US etc governments were to blame, for the 2nd world war.
 
mattheman said:
So the voters are to blame? not the con lib or lab, typical mind set of a labour/con voter, if you can shift some of the blame do it.
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This is democracy.
If an extreme fringe party is voted in, who else is there to blame rather than the Voters? I do agree that the main parties SHOULD have come up policies that actually interest the voters, but with the recent expenses scandal, people are hungry for blood, top it off with Labour's years stupid decisions - this shifts for the extremist.

So I believe, in a democratic society, voters are only to be blamed for having the BNP voted in.
 
Skidder said:
You probably can't tell when people are poking fun at you rather than making a serious comparison. I refer you to my point about intelligence.
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I'm quite aware you are poking fun at the BNP thank you very much. Your not exactly poking fun at me since I voted elsewhere at these elections. I just found your very one sided and extreme comparison rather idiotic, embarrassing and shows a very worrying naivety of exactly how extreme the Nazi's actually were.
 
Skidder said:
I was in Germany last week at the Eagle's Nest, Hitler's mountain retreat, personally I think Hitler was a bit of a wrongun, but no doubt you people would have been first in line for the SS uniforms and ready with your tin openers to uncork the Zyklon B.
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wordy said:
To be fair you did sound serious.
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Hitler was a bit of a wrongun? Tin openers? Yes, very serious I'm sure. There are no doubt similarities and it pays to exaggerate for effect but come on. That said, racists are typically not known for their humour. Look at Bernard Manning.
 
Mr Jones said:
This is democracy.
If an extreme fringe party is voted in, who else is there to blame rather than the Voters? I do agree that the main parties SHOULD have come up policies that actually interest the voters, but with the recent expenses scandal, people are hungry for blood, top it off with Labour's years stupid decisions - this shifts for the extremist.

So I believe, in a democratic society, voters are only to be blamed for having the BNP voted in.
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we dont have a full democracy, "universally accepted definition of 'democracy',[3] there are two principles that any definition of democracy includes. The first principle is that all members of the society (citizens) have equal access to power and the second that all members (citizens) enjoy universally recognized freedoms and liberties"
 
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