The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

[Neodite]

Im confused... So if i got my partner pregnant, and we went on holiday to say spain, and she gave birth over there, you lot saying my baby would be spanish?

 

[sidthesexist]

Biased sources are no sources.

ALLOWING every illegal immigrant to stay in the UK would end up costing the British taxpayer up to £4billion a year, it is claimed today.

An amnesty for the estimated 700,000 illegal migrants already in the country would cost up to £2billion in the first year as they qualified for benefits.

Express

It estimates that over the course of their lifetime, the family will cost the public on average £1 million in handouts such as housing benefit, child benefits and pension credit after income tax and national insurance payments are deducted

Telegraph

 

[Deadbeat]

"An amnesty allowing illegal immigrants to stay in Britain would cost taxpayers £1million for each newcomer"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ays-study-Government-faces-calls-amnesty.html

Don't quote the Daily Mail as a reliable source. You'll only succeed in bringing down shame upon yourself.

 

[Metallifux]

Im confused... So if i got my partner pregnant, and we went on holiday to say spain, and she gave birth over there, you lot saying my baby would be spanish?

No. But if they were good enough they could play for Spain

 

[Ucof]

How long was the holiday for?

Most airlines don't let heavily pregnant women fly.

 

[deuse]

Did you really just link a daily mail article on immigrantion? **** me...

So if "The Times" printed it you would be ok with it?

 

[Moley]

You are assuming FORCED re-patriation I do believe the policy says voluntary.

I am assuming nothing of the sort, I'm aware of what the policy says. Do you deny that the BNP would just as likely try and get the Sikhs to go home voluntarily as well as the Muslims.

 

[deuse]

Don't quote the Daily Mail as a reliable source. You'll only succeed in bringing down shame upon yourself.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/75002/Immigrant-amnesty-bill-to-cost-4billion

and there are more..

EDIT=beaten to it

 

[Ucof]

Yeah, but that's the Express.

Same as the Daily Mail, the daily Sport and the daily Star.

 

[Doctor_Zhivago]

So if "The Times" printed it you would be ok with it?

Must come from the guardian only for the lefties to be 100% happy with it

 

[Doctor_Zhivago]

Yeah, but that's the Express.

Same as the Daily Mail, the daily Sport and the daily Star.

Never knew daily mail had naked girls in it

 

[cheets64]

The BNP vote increased only marginally in Liverpool and Manchester and their biggest single vote came in Wigan with 7,517 votes cast.

Oh ffs

 

[Metallifux]

Taking Australia and New Zealand as examples to qualify for immigration you must be bale to speak English fluently. Now how many immigrants coming into the country can't communicate in English and what's more have no intention of learning. Now admittedly it is 17 years since I last had to apply for a job and a grade C in English was mandatory. How is an immigrant who cannot communicate in English even expected to fill in an application form? Life on benefits or being forced to work for a slave driver.

 

[Neodite]

How long was the holiday for?

Most airlines don't let heavily pregnant women fly.

2 months before the due date i think it is, but i think thats only because airlines give a newborn free flights for life if born on the plane

But say a 6month break over there... Or what about if she fell pregnant over there and had the child there, and then we came home....

Surly it should be what your parents are?

So if you have a Polish mother and a british farther, it does not matter where you live, where you was born, what color you are or if you poo green goo. you are half british, half polish, so should be free to live in both places. But if you was born in spain, you carnt go around telling people your spanish =\

 

[Glaucus]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/75002/Immigrant-amnesty-bill-to-cost-4billion

and there are more..

EDIT=beaten to it

And the source is migration watch UK. with no mention of how they arrived to those costs. It has no credible source which ever paper it is printed in.

Which ever way you look at it, BNP is bad. Bad for the image of this country, bad for eh wealthier of this country(Their policys have no depth to them How they going to achieve these aims). They are a bunch of racists, as pointed out just read their own publications.

 

[Metallifux]

I am assuming nothing of the sort, I'm aware of what the policy says. Do you deny that the BNP would just as likely try and get the Sikhs to go home voluntarily as well as the Muslims.

Again you say try to get people to leave, how exactly do you propose that the BNP would try to get people to leave. You can't make people leave voluntarily, then it isn't voluntary.

 

[semi-pro waster]

Ah yes I forgot you can't answer questions without trying to wiggle out them by focusing on one part. This thread is about the BNP right?
BNP are for INDIGENOUS British people first (ZOmG Fascist scumz!!!!!11eleven11) Right?
You asked what are British people Right?
I told you the levels of Britishness by the lefts own forms Right?
I answered you Right?
British people are first and foremost INDIGENOUS
So tell me what is this great fundamental difference I answered to your question? Or do you simply not have an answer and try to derail the question by nitpicking?

I see, so I've asked a question to another member (and received an answer) yet you feel the need to interject and add a word in that changes the meaning of the sentence then accuse me of not answering your question (nb it looked like a rhetorical question since you proceeded to answer yourself)? If I've summarised that wrongly then feel free to correct me although I'm sure you don't need the invitation.

This thread is a combination of several about the BNP but yes, we are dealing with the BNP here and I asked deuse what his definition of British people was. Not what the BNP's was although that has been added to the discussion, I asked what his definition was of British people and then pointed out this differed from that of the BNP.

I don't think of Britishness in terms of it being requisite to be indigenous or not. So you offered me an answer, not necessarily one I agree with. In the previous sentence but one I offer you an answer, one I'm almost certain you will disagree with.

 

[Pulsar_GTI]

I aint read all this thread but some of the BNP ideas like stopping immigrants coming to the coutry would be a good idea ... or some kinda of points system like Australia would be useful.

We pay a lot of money out of tax payers pockets to these immigrants who come over and offer fec all, they just get housed somewhere and get free Nhs & stuff, get invoved in crime etc... People who have been paying taxes for many many years gets screwed cause there isnt enough money!!

Any new immigrants should be deported Immediately and not aloud to spend any time in UK.

The ones who can offer us something then fair enough, but they have to pass a test be English speaking, educated etc... all others should be kicked out

Anyway thas just my view

 

[Deadbeat]

2 months before the due date i think it is, but i think thats only because airlines give a newborn free flights for life if born on the plane

But say a 6month break over there... Or what about if she fell pregnant over there and had the child there, and then we came home....

Surly it should be what your parents are?

So if you have a Polish mother and a british farther, it does not matter where you live, where you was born, what color you are or if you poo green goo. you are half british, half polish, so should be free to live in both places. But if you was born in spain, you carnt go around telling people your spanish =\

No, you can only tell people you're Spanish if your parents are resident tehre when you're born and/or you are registered as a Spanish national. If you boat over to France and drop a sprog, doesn't make it French. If you emmigrate to France and register your newborn as a French citizen, then they're French. If, 5 years later, you decide you miss the rain, expense and fear, you can move back to England - the 5-year old will have to be reregistered as an British citizen, but it's pretty much a given since the parents will still hold their British citizenship and the child is still somewhat dependent on them.

 

[Spektor]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/75002/Immigrant-amnesty-bill-to-cost-4billion

and there are more..

EDIT=beaten to it

There is a lot of vague language in that article, it even says only a couple of paragraphs in that the estimate is only half of that original figure.

Immigration is important to any country's growth and creates jobs, doesn't steal them away. Whilst it should be regulated and controlled, to slap "**** off" sign on Dover and then starting some insane repatriation program of those currently living in Britain would be the end of us, our economy, our identity, our integrity.

Here is an excerpt from a description of fascism:

a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity

Ring any bells? it is entirely what the BNP is based upon, and used as the seeds of fear and resentment it inflicts upon the poor and the uneducated to create a support base and a clear reason why you shouldn't be backing it.

Probably pointless trying since most of you not only harbor clearly racist views but seem to have done so for a very long time.. maybe easier just waiting for you to die in the next couple of decades and hope my generation and those that follow are better educated.