The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

[Sankari]

I would love to see how much the tax payers pay for NHS/Doctures/Dentist/Housing/water rates/Council tax and so on for immigrants.

Speaking as an immigrant, I can tell you that nobody paid anything for me; I had to pay for everything myself (except healthcare, though of course I still paid for my NHS prescriptions). I had no access to benefits or council housing; I had to find my own rental accommodation and pay every penny for water rates/council tax, etc. I couldn't even open a bank account; I had to use a building society because the banks kept knocking me back.

 

[Spektor]

Speaking as an immigrant, I can tell you that nobody paid anything for me; I had to pay for everything myself (except healthcare, though of course I still paid for my NHS prescriptions). I had no access to benefits or council housing; I had to find my own rental accommodation and pay every penny for water rates/council tax, etc. I couldn't even open a bank account; I had to use a building society because the banks kept knocking me back.

You should go to the Daily Mail and ask them how to get your £1 million you're owed for being all foreign-like.

 

[MIKAY]

what does our past have anything to do with how modern policys should be made. Or how it's ok to discriminate because other groups where discriminated against in the past. Have a big fat

Well the BMP want non indigenous people to back to thier countrys of origin so why dont the non indigenous people of USA, Aussies etc go back to Britain.

Its easy to forget the not so long history isnt it? Carry on blaming other for your misfortunes - drink away

 

[Glaucus]

Well the BMP want non indigenous people to back to thier countrys of origin so why dont the non indigenous people of USA, Aussies etc go back to Britain.

Its easy to forget the not so long history isnt it? Carry on blaming other for your misfortunes - drink away

and teh BNP is a bunch of stupid racists. Your point's still hold no grounds though.

who's forgetting anything? who's blaming other people? not me.

That's up to those countries to decide on immigration policies. Not for us.

Again what does past history have to do with anything? or are you one of those people who don't like progress.

we going to start blaming italy for their empire? or the muslims for theirs? Or any of the other half dozen or so empires.

 

[antijoke]

The BNP are a bunch of dimwits.

 

[Sankari]

And the source is migration watch UK. with no mention of how they arrived to those costs. It has no credible source which ever paper it is printed in.

To be fair, migrationwatch does have a good history of posting reliable figures. Even the government has admitted that they're kosher. It would be worth asking about the methodology, though. Why not email them?

 

[JohnnyG]

..You know the Crown jewels are indian right?...

Are you being serious?

 

[deuse]

Speaking as an immigrant, I can tell you that nobody paid anything for me; I had to pay for everything myself (except healthcare, though of course I still paid for my NHS prescriptions). I had no access to benefits or council housing; I had to find my own rental accommodation and pay every penny for water rates/council tax, etc. I couldn't even open a bank account; I had to use a building society because the banks kept knocking me back.

To me thats the way it should be even the NHS no freebies
what so ever.
And well done for doing it and it proves you want to be here a long time.

 

[Glaucus]

Why not email them?

Because I'm not bothered about it.

 

[MIKAY]

Are you being serious?

Look it up, The british empire stole the jewels form indians when it was colanised.

 

[Sankari]

I aint read all this thread but some of the BNP ideas like stopping immigrants coming to the coutry would be a good idea ... or some kinda of points system like Australia would be useful.

The UK has already adopted a form of Australia's point system. It will take a while before you see any change, but it will happen.

We pay a lot of money out of tax payers pockets to these immigrants who come over and offer fec all, they just get housed somewhere and get free Nhs & stuff, get invoved in crime etc...

Which immigrants "get housed somewhere and get free Nhs & stuff"? When I came to this country, all I got was access to the NHS. I had to pay for everything else myself. Did I miss the queue for "free stuff"?

 

[Metallifux]

Dude you are totally missing the original point I made and we seem to be going off on a strange semantics tangent here about the details of how the BNP operates - which isn't relevant.

To re-cap and hopefully clarify:

Jazz pointed out that Nick Griffin had made a point that some Sikhs had voted for him in Bradford "as they would tackle the growing problem of extremists Muslims in this country".

The BNP have made it clear that their was of dealing with extremist Muslims would be "to send them all back home" - in line with their policies of repatriation.

I pointed out that it is ironic for the Sikhs to have voted for a party that would be just as happy to repatriate the Sikhs (albeit voluntary) as the Muslims.

Hope this clears things up.

OK I'm wih you now and see the irony. This is again why I suggested it was foolhardy of the BNP not to allow anybody who truly believes themselves to be British to join the party regardless of their ethnicity.

 

[dante6491]

You know the Crown jewels are indian right?

From Wiki:

The Imperial Crown of India was created when King George V visited Delhi as Emperor of India. To prevent the pawning of the Crown Jewels, British law prohibited the removal of a Crown Jewel from the country. For this reason, a new crown was made. It has since not been used. The Imperial Crown of India is not a part of the British Crown Jewels, though it is stored with them.

That is the only set of crown jewels that are from India. There is also one with large diamonds from Africa.

 

[Glaucus]

Look it up, The british empire stole the jewels form indians when it was colanised.

wtf the crown is Indian ORIGIN. it was made for the queen. Not stolen.

 

[deuse]

Are you being serious?

I think he means the STAR OF AFRICA DIAMOND. But there again.

 

[Moley]

OK I'm wih you now and see the irony. This is again why I suggested it was foolhardy of the BNP not to allow anybody who truly believes themselves to be British to join the party regardless of their ethnicity.

Glad you get it now and I totally agree with you.

 

[Sankari]

To me thats the way it should be even the NHS no freebies
what so ever. And well done for doing it and it proves you want to be here a long time.

Actually I'm going home to Australia later this year. But I will have been here for almost 5 years by then, and I've paid my fair share of tax.

 

[MIKAY]

and teh BNP is a bunch of stupid racists. Your point's still hold no grounds though.

who's forgetting anything? who's blaming other people? not me.

That's up to those countries to decide on immigration policies. Not for us.

Again what does past history have to do with anything? or are you one of those people who don't like progress.

we going to start blaming italy for their empire? or the muslims for theirs? Or any of the other half dozen or so empires.

Do to others as you would have them do to you comes to mind. If you fear about the indeginous people of Britain maybe the Britsih should have feared for the Indeginous people of the country they destroyed and claimed as thier own. And it wasnt that long ago. The falksland should be first

 

[Yas786]

Actually its the Koh-i-noor that the English stole from the Indians as a spoil of war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohinoor

 

[LabR@t]

Griffin is a racist bigot and he is the leader of a bunch of racist bigots, the fact that he's probably more corrupt than them to boot only makes it worse.

Probably is a powerful word!

I can name loads of labour and tory mps that ARE corrupt.

your speculation as to the character of Griffin is just that speculation.