When will we reach the Moon, Mars, Jupiter, another star and another galaxy...

aardvark said:
- A probe or human reaches another star - 10,000 if we're lucky
- A probe or human reaches another galaxy - never
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I suspect you're right!

Unless we develop some amazing 'warp drive' I don't think we will reach another star, and certainly not another galaxy...

It would take us thousands of years and we'd need to develop some truly stunning energy developments and magical leaps in general physics...
 
NeilFawcett said:
Go on, put your scifi heads on and predict how many years till:-
- A human lands on the Moon again 15 years
- A human lands on Mars 60 years
- A human reaches Jupiter (Arthur C Clarke said we'd already be there :)) 150 years
- A probe or human reaches another star A very long time
- A probe or human reaches another galaxy an even longer very long time
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- A human lands on the Moon again - 50 years
- A human lands on Mars - 55 years. I think we'll have a space travel fad around that time period.
- A human reaches Jupiter - I don't think we'll end up bothering.
- A probe or human reaches another star - Another star? I thought we hadn't gone to our own sun! Give it about 200 years.
- A probe or human reaches another galaxy - Maybe 600 years if wormholes work, if not, probably a couple of hundreds of millions of years, when our super conciousness gets bored of the current galaxy and decides to leapfrog solar systems using rockets.
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NeilFawcett said:
It would take us thousands of years and we'd need to develop some truly stunning energy developments and magical leaps in general physics...
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Closest star is about 50 light years away, so getting a probe there would only take 100 years, and thats just 1/2 light speed. Thats with current tech.
 
JohnnyG said:
I have it on good authority that a few members here have already landed on various planets, mentally anyway.
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Why am I feeling Paranoid. :confused:

NeilFawcett said:
Go on, put your scifi heads on and predict how many years till:-
- A human lands on the Moon again Never No Point.
- A human lands on Mars When the Martians comes & pinch one of us to insert probes in to.
- A human reaches Jupiter (Arthur C Clarke said we'd already be there :)) Never. Nothing to justify the expense so it won't get done.
- A probe or human reaches another star If it does we won't know about it.
- A probe or human reaches another galaxy When we are reduced back to particles & waft through space
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I think all this space lark is cobblers & am more interested in finding out what Antimatter is & travelling around in that for a bit.


Quote = Wiki
There is considerable speculation as to why the observable universe is apparently almost entirely matter, whether there exist other places that are almost entirely antimatter instead, and what might be possible if antimatter could be harnessed, but at this time the apparent asymmetry of matter and antimatter in the visible universe is one of the greatest unsolved problems in physics.
Now that is Interesting. :cool:
 
For the debunkers of the moon landings have a full read of this then come back with your reasoned arguments in tact :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories



Personally i think that going back to the moon may happen soon, mainly for training ahead of manned mars missions. Timescale will depend a lot on the funding and commitment of governments.

Jupiter area manned missions are a long way off in my mind, 100+ years id say. And any further just isnt going to happen before major advances in technology.

Its entirely possible that if we can establish the kind of technology to set up and run a permanent base on the lunar surface it could be used as a staging area for mars missions. They are considering the production of fuel on the moon from natural resources, and coupled with the lower mavity means that launching a larger craft from the lunar surface would be easier ( as far as the physics go anyway ). With current technology i think its JUST about possible to have a manned base but the cost would be ridiculous.

Building a craft on earth and sending it in parts to the moon base then assembling the mars craft in orbit round the moon may be the answer, but the dangers and difficulties in this are many as you can imagine. It will have to be done somehow as launching a single craft from earth that is big enough to contain all thats needed for manned mars missions is not really feasable.

The other option is to construct the mars craft using the space station. This however is still going to be very dangerous, and costly... but certainly within the realms of possibility in our lifetime. Assuming the space station is updated and kept going.
 
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We need a new fuel, When/If we get that then maybe further space exploration will happen as it will be cost effective, Until then it's a pipe dream.
 
The plan is to go back to the moon by 2020 with Nasa, and Mars within a short time after, i doubt theres any reason to go further, other planets are just too far away.

I cant wait for us to go back to the moon, with the cameras now, it will grip a whole new generation of space buffs and make heroes of the men who go, like my heroes who went before.

I would hope we get back before all of the guys who have been have passed on, it would be great to get their thoughts as they watched others, but they are all pretty long in the tooth now, the ones who remain.
 
Anksy said:
A Set, A Camera and Photoshop.

and Lunar rocks eh,

but seriously, im feeling Argumentative, but i still dont believe anything i dont see with my own eyes, in reason ofc
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Ummm... What version of photoshop would that be back in 1969 exactly?

Seriously, the lunar hoax folk are mentalists :)
 
Metalface Mark said:
The plan is to go back to the moon by 2020 with Nasa, and Mars within a short time after, i doubt theres any reason to go further, other planets are just too far away.

I cant wait for us to go back to the moon, with the cameras now, it will grip a whole new generation of space buffs and make heroes of the men who go, like my heroes who went before.

I would hope we get back before all of the guys who have been have passed on, it would be great to get their thoughts as they watched others, but they are all pretty long in the tooth now, the ones who remain.
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I want to see probes to Europa and Titan. I want to see footage from underwater thermal vents and wait to see if something swims by!
 
Duggan said:
I would like to think we landed on the moon but still aren’t a 100%. Just my main reason is why has it taken us so long to get back.....
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Because reaching the moon was political ambition. At a time of immense rivalry with the USSR Kennedy didn't want the US to be seen as inferior. After all the soviets got the first satellite, animal, man and woman into space. They also put the first probes on the moon.

After a few manned moon missions when boxes had been ticked, publicity milked there were very few reasons to return.

This current return to the moon talk has been sparked by the space ambitions of China and India. I am unsure if the US has the commitment to see this one through. I read yesterday that congress is quietly trimming NASA moon related budgets. Can't find the link now.

bledd. said:
just looked up the mavity for jupiter
it's 2.5g
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It also has a sea of liquid hydrogen to go sailing on :p
 
I've just been doing planetary geology as a module at university and one of the lectures was about future missions.

According to slides from the space mission, we were supposed to be going back to the moon in 2024 for exploration tasks and to demonstrate life support systems and habitation modules as well as seeing if we can still do it or not. However those slides are a few years old, so it's most likely been delayed by a few years now.

As for Mars, they are in the process of producing a probe that will go collect sample of the Marsian surface and atmosphere, known as ExoMars. According to the slides an automatic mission to Mars was planned for 2026, to demonstrate interplanetray propulsion for a man rated full size vehicle. Following that, they planned a human mission between 2030/2033. Again, those are likely to be delayed by a few years now.

I don't really see why we need a human to go to Jupiter as it's a gas planet, unless you meant Jupiter's moon. We have had a probe land on Titan though, one of Saturn's moon. The Huygen's probe even took some pictures around its landing site.

We've got a long time before we reach another star yet alone another galaxy, but the voyager probe is currently outisde the Kuiper Belt beyond Pluto at 94AU. Considering we have to cross the Oort cloud, which is 200,000AU away and 1/4 of the way to the next star, we can safely say, we're nowhere close physically and technologically.

For those moon landing skeptics, how would you explain the fact that the rocks we have from the moon have fundamentally different compositions to that of ours and new technology is able to identify more similarites/differences?
 
Go on, put your scifi heads on and predict how many years till:-
- A human lands on the Moon again As there's little need call for it there won't be.
- A human lands on Mars 2110
- A human reaches Jupiter (Arthur C Clarke said we'd already be there :)) C25
- A probe or human reaches another starC200 - it would take foooreeever
- A probe or human reaches another galaxyC300 - only if a new propulsion is invented or a way of distorting space/time


By C200 I mean the 200th century similarly C300, and C25 (i.e. year 2400).
 
emmjaybee said:
Well if you actually believe we landed on the moon in the first place that is? I don't so space travel is far far away.......
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I missed this earlier in my haste to post. :o

I didn't actually believe that there were people out there that would openly admit this.
To humour your comment I say, You do know that if you ever meet Buzz he's going to Knock you out !!! :p:p:p
 
The Amount of Millions and Billions of pounds which it would cost to do...

I would rather have that money spent on our own problems in this planet first such as curing diseases and cancer.
 
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