The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Neodite said:
Also what do people think about these "polish hand carwash" places, they do pretty well money wise (I kinda say fair play to that) But a guy that started working here is polish, and he used to work for one, he said they all shared a small house, about 8 of them, and it was cramped, but they didnt pay ANY tax on there earnings, so they are house sharing times 8 and not paying tax, he says he has saved loads, and send loads back to his family in poland, and goes and visits them ever few months.
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That isn't allowed as its illegal, we don't need the bnp for that. If the police knew he would be stopped.
 
dirtydog said:
If it wasn't true, if it was just a myth then why are there thousands queueing up at Calais and stowing away on lorries to get into the UK :)
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They dont stow in lorries, you realise its legal for them to come here? We are in the European union allowing eastern europeans to come here.
 
scorza said:
Nevertheless, if you've been waiting for X years for social housing, and then an immigrant family come into the country and are given social housing because they tick more boxes than you. You have to wonder "would I have got that house if they hadn't come into the country?", and then you can't wonder why people vote BNP.
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But this doesn't happen. No immigrant is eligible for social housing when they first enter the country. NO IMMIGRANT IS ELIGIBLE FOR SOCIAL HOUSING WHEN THEY FIRST ENTER THE COUNTRY. I know this because I am an immigrant myself. I speak from experience, and I speak from a knowledge of the law.
 
Evangelion said:
Yes. I would have been one myself, if it wasn't for friends who helped me out. As a newly arrived immigrant, I was not eligible for social housing, and it's very difficult to afford private accommodation without a job.

There's a stack of Polish and East European workers sleeping rough at the moment because they don't qualify for social housing and can't afford to pay for private accommodation (see the article here).
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They came with a passport that was nearly out of date and moan..hmm ok
And as for yourself you did not look into it before coming here,same as me in the USA
In 2002 I came back to the UK with nothing(I failed there) I was homeless for 6 weeks(lived in a dos house)
But then I found out that if I would have gone to the UK embassy in orlando
They would have paid my fair back home and gave me a flat when I got here.




Source please?
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You have to sign up to Solihull to get the info,but this is a good read
on how they need Housing here http://www.solihullcommunityhousing.org.uk/FileServer.aspx?oID=1191&lID=0 I bet you never knew that either.


Why? Not every immigrant gets social housing. That's the whole point. The overwhelming majority pay for their own private housing.
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But why should the UK tax payer pay towars there rent?
 
Evangelion said:
But this doesn't happen. No immigrant is eligible for social housing when they first enter the country. NO IMMIGRANT IS ELIGIBLE FOR SOCIAL HOUSING WHEN THEY FIRST ENTER THE COUNTRY. I know this because I am an immigrant myself. I speak from experience, and I speak from a knowledge of the law.
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Well done :) But I include asylum seekers who are also immigrants. Most of whom are known to be bogus. Many of these nonetheless end up getting taxpayer funded homes, whether social housing or private sector.
 
The immigration issue aside, what do they think to Griffin's holocaust denialism, the national front background and some of the hideously backward views on race?
 
dirtydog said:
Why do we let people come into the country who can't afford to live here? They should go back, not sleep on our streets like vagrants.
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Because when they first came to the country, they could afford to live here. The ones sleeping rough are those who've lost their jobs as a result of the economic downturn and are now trapped outside the system because - and follow me closely here they are not eligible for social housing.
 
dirtydog said:
If it wasn't true, if it was just a myth then why are there thousands queueing up at Calais and stowing away on lorries to get into the UK :)
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Because they dont know any better, because nobody gets sent back to tell them otherwise ;)

That and some do get it all :p
 
scorza said:
(a) isn't a problem but (b) is. Economic migrants must be just that. If people come to this country to work then that is fine (provided it is legal) but if you lose your job you must be prepared to support yourself or leave.

A friend of mine took a year's unpaid leave to go and live and work in Australia with the express intention of becoming a permanent migrant there. Unfortunately for him it didn't work out and he was unable to obtain suitable long-term employment that meant he could get a permanent visa. So he had to return home to blighty instead. This is how economic migration should work.
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Yes, I agree. That's how it should work.

Presumably if he'd been working for 12 months the Australian government wouldn't be supporting him either?
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Nope.
 
An estimated 3,000 Poles are living rough in London, with "proportionately similar" numbers in Dublin and in Scotland, it claims.

The organisation used World Habitat Day to warn that increasing numbers of migrant workers are going from "hope to homeless".

A statement said: "The situation in Ireland and the UK, which opened their borders for all European migrant workers immediately after EU enlargement, demonstrates that workers from the new member states have become particularly vulnerable to homelessness. Some of them could not find suitable employment or lost their jobs.

"They have become homeless because they have no income and are not entitled to social security benefits during the initial years of their stay in the host country.

"Similar developments are likely to occur in other European countries that recently opened or will soon fully open their labour markets to workers from the new member states."

Feantsa emphasises that the "vast majority" of migrant workers are making a significant economic contribution in their host country, But it goes on: "However, some people have not been able to find proper employment immediately.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-408039/Thousands-EU-migrants-homeless-UK.html

(article from 2006, before the recession I hasten to add)
 
Thanks DD, for proving that immigrants do not receive social housing or benefits when they enter this country because they are not eligible.

:)
 
Evangelion said:
Thanks DD, for proving that immigrants do not receive social housing or benefits when they enter this country because they are not eligible.

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EU citizens generally aren't, but they aren't the only immigrants we get, are they...

Anyway of all those reader comments I posted, you seized on one in order to continue your crusade against the BNP, but while ignoring the overall thrust of the message :)
 
Neodite said:
Also what do people think about these "polish hand carwash" places, they do pretty well money wise (I kinda say fair play to that) But a guy that started working here is polish, and he used to work for one, he said they all shared a small house, about 8 of them, and it was cramped, but they didnt pay ANY tax on there earnings, so they are house sharing times 8 and not paying tax, he says he has saved loads, and send loads back to his family in poland, and goes and visits them ever few months.
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Not supprising at all. Thats pretty much the norm here in Bradford with the Polish.
 
Just because it states they are not eligible, does not mean some dont get it, or help towards private.

They should get no help at all, same as british people that have never worked and bum it on benifits and the dole
 
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