The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Everyone should be allowed to vote for whoever they want, all the information for and against each political party is out there in the media.

If, after listening to both sides of the arguement, an individual decides to vote Labour, Conservative, English Democrats, UKIP or BNP, why should they be stereotyped or put down by others who do not share those views?

There seems to be a lot of 'thought police' on here.

Because voting for the BNP is endorsing their policies. It has nothing to do with thought policing; it's called a discussion.
 
Your culture is that of the minority in this country, the racist, xenophobic thugs. Our culture, the British culture, is in perfectly good hands with the rest of us thanks.

Is your argument so weak that you need to resort to unfounded accusations of racism or xenophobia? Apparently :) I am neither of those things. I realise it must not compute for you that it is possible and indeed logical to be against mass immigration and multiculturalism, yet not be racist or xenophobic.

Why can people in this country not have a frank and honest debate about these issues without silly accusations of racism and xenophobia being bandied about.
 
Proof or gtfo because you do KNOW ME don't you to make those remarks?
And you said "refrain from judging" you just judged me
which way do you want it?

While I have never met you, I have had 1,415 chances to get to know you a little bit. I therefore probably know more about you, than you know about people you have never met to any degree and yet have taken against.

Unless I am mistaken you voted for the BNP (if I am mistaken I take it back and apologise ). From my perspective you can not vote for a racist party without being a racist, if you vote for a racist party and do not view yourself as racist then you do not have the capacity to realise your actions are racist - and that is what I said. That is taking a view based on the evidence you have provided, not judging you based upon my preconceptions.
 
It is something we should celebrate, surely? After having such experiences as visiting cave temples in Sri Lanka, I feel I'm a more rounded person than I used to be. Diversity is exciting, it's interesting, diversity is knowledge and should be embraced.
You misunderstand me it seems. Diversity worldwide is great, I do absolutely value it. But not on this small island. When in Rome.
 
No - do you know why? Because we are so heavily overpopulated in Britain that our housing is very small and expensive relative to what you enjoy back in Australia.

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But you still think we should let more people come here don't you, which will result in more homes and roads etc being built on what's left of our countryside.

No DD, if you look at my other posts in this thread (and other threads) you will see that I believe the UK to be virtually full, and I believe that immigration to the UK should be severely restricted. There's already too many socio-economic pressures on this country without the added weight of over-population.
 
You misunderstand me it seems. Diversity worldwide is great, I do absolutely value it. But not on this small island. When in Rome.
I think this is called the 'free buffet' approach to life - you want everything out of it without putting anything in or giving anything up.
 
Because voting for the BNP is endorsing their policies. It has nothing to do with thought policing; it's called a discussion.


Ever heard of a SHOCK vote?
it works, just look at the name calling here...
its worked very well :)
 
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Yeah I am sadly aware of some of the problems and tensions your country is facing, due to immigration and multiculturalism. Although as in America, the whites there IMO have slightly less grounds to complain than we in Europe do, because whites are not indigenous to Australasia or to the Americas, they are immigrants themselves.

People can say that.

But Australia as a Country not a big land mass is a white founded Country. And was up until the 50s.

But even so whats that got to do with things?
Whites attacking Indians is BS. The exact same as Indians attacking whites is BS imo.


Have you tryed to get to get to know and immigrant? You kmight suprise your self by finding out how nice and respectfull they are and how all they want to do is just to blend in and live life and cause no hastle.

You do get your fair share of ****ers but likie ive said you get them from white people aswell.

Australia might have been Built by whites, but now its being built by people from all around the world, The same the UK probably is.
 
I am perfectly capable of looking ahead and I have never said that immigration is a non-issue. I am adressing the points made in relation to the BNP, since that is the point of the thread.

So why care if the BNP was/is racist? Aslong as they get the issue sorted? As nobody else is doing a damn thing about, well anything.

Oh and im not a BNP supporter, I just think it looks like the BNP are the only people that have the balls to do anything about anything, even if they still dont deserv any seats at all.

And you would think other parties would think of **** even the BNP got some seats we need to buck our ideas up, but no, they just fob it off as a discrase to politics. Same old bull****
 
I'm a bit worried about getting involved in this 'debate' but what makes you British?

I myself am English, born and bread, however I would consider myself British and proud to be British, my flag is red white and blue not just red and white.

What I don't understand about the BNP is their stance on 'Britishness' and who qualifies?

For example if you were born and raised in England(Scotland, Wales or Ireland for that matter), your father fought for the British army, you have no religious ties and are atheist but your blood was Iranian - how would the BNP and their supporters see this person, as British (which they are) or a problem (KKK style)?
 
Is your argument so weak that you need to resort to unfounded accusations of racism or xenophobia? Apparently :) I am neither of those things. I realise it must not compute for you that it is possible and indeed logical to be against mass immigration and multiculturalism, yet not be racist or xenophobic.

Why can people in this country not have a frank and honest debate about these issues without silly accusations of racism and xenophobia being bandied about.


Aren't you the same DirtyDog who posts on stormfront? Having seen some of the bile posted there as quoted previously, I'm afraid the onus of proof is on you to illustrate in what possible way you are not racist or xenophobic.

I am being frank and honest, I am not accusing you, I am calling it as I see it given it's relevance to the subject we are discussing. Perhaps I am wrong - if you can - prove it.
 
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No DD, if you look at my other posts in this thread (and other threads) you will see that I believe the UK to be virtually full, and I believe that immigration to the UK should be severely restricted. There's already too many socio-economic pressures on this country without the added weight of over-population.

Apologies then, I have done you a disservice ;) It can be a bit hard to keep up with just who thinks what :)

I just think that too many people don't realise just how overpopulated we are. If we had France's population density, UK population would be around 30 million! :eek: And that's if the UK population was spread around evenly, which it isn't; most of it is in England. In theory housing could be double the current size, but for the same cost it is now. Yet all with the same GDP/capita or PPP, so we'd be no worse off individually even though UK GDP was halved.
 
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For example if you were born and raised in England(Scotland, Wales or Ireland for that matter), your father fought for the British army, you have no religious ties and are atheist but your blood was Iranian - how would the BNP and their supporters see this person, as British (which they are) or a problem (KKK style)?
You would be (quote Nick Griffin) a 'racial foreigner'

Although if you were a 'White' Iranian, as there are many, that'd confuse matters a whole lot and probably turn their little brains into mush.
 
Christ, these BNP supporters are set in their ways, I don't even get why people are still trying to reason with them, there's no point.
 
So why care if the BNP was/is racist? Aslong as they get the issue sorted? As nobody else is doing a damn thing about, well anything.

Oh and im not a BNP supporter, I just think it looks like the BNP are the only people that have the balls to do anything about anything, even if they still dont deserv any seats at all.

And you would think other parties would think of **** even the BNP got some seats we need to buck our ideas up, but no, they just fob it off as a discrase to politics. Same old bull****

By saying "I did not say immigration is a non-issue", I am obviously not saying it is the ONLY ISSUE. Immigration control is a function addressed by every government, the BNP just have a massive hard on for it and haven't thought about anything else.
 
Have you tryed to get to get to know and immigrant? You kmight suprise your self by finding out how nice and respectfull they are and how all they want to do is just to blend in and live life and cause no hastle.
I already know that but my views aren't based on a belief that immigrants are inferior people.
 
Do they UK scan people they let in like we do down here?

Or do they really just let any ol nutter in? Which if it is the case could be casuing a lot of this trouble?
 
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