Protesting outside No. 10, taking photographs of police officers, enjoying driving at a sensible speed, having the basic human right to a democratic and uncorrupt government and other elected officials ... amongst a few other things.
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Protesting outside No. 10, taking photographs of police officers, enjoying driving at a sensible speed, having the basic human right to a democratic and uncorrupt government and other elected officials ... amongst a few other things.
Because somehow he was democratically elected, perhaps other parties should listen to what he says and try to understand why people voted for him, I've no idea why anyone did mind you.
Ignoring someone's views will never change them.
Damn you! I wanted to have fun with him
I'll let you know when he's back
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That group of people make the BNP look tame!
No, he hates those.
Do we have a "basic human right" to a democratic and uncorrupted government?
You do realise that our "corrupt" politicians are in comparison to other nations' such as the USA are almost squeaky clean? Most can walk into jobs which would pay a lot more than they get as an MP and besides you really think the BNP would be morally "right"?
Driving at a sensible speed....that’s pretty damn important isn't it.
I find my personal views conflicted with how to deal with the BNP, I detest their views but I am for freedom of speech. Part of me wants to just outright ban the extreme's from being able to campaign politically, but alas it's a slippery slope. Oh the pains of being a liberal...
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You don't think there are any genuine asylum seekers from Afghanistan and Iraq? I think we should bear some of the responsibility for the mess our foreign policy has helped create.
Surely the main conecpt of a democracy is that all viewpoints have a chance to be heard, everything from the mainstream ideals to the minority views. All have equal weight and all have a right to be heard. No matter how personally you may dislike them.
No-one has the right to decide who has a right to be heard or not, all have that right. Whether you decide to listen is up to you.
No-one has the right to decide who has a right to be heard or not, all have that right. Whether you decide to listen is up to you.
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Thats the great thing about democracy, if someone you despise is running for election then don't vote for them. If enough people despised him then he wouldn't be in front of the Houses of Parliment giving a speech in the first place
True, but then people have a right to protest as well, even for parties they have elected and the decisions they make. Not to the extent of stopping him from making his speech though. Better to let him speak and confirm what a shambles he and his party are.
So who are the law-breaking thugs then?
Going by the people protesting it looks to be , ethnics and students
... Or hippies going by the way some of them look 
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I see through your trick question! - it's the BNP inciting racial hatred and the egg-throwing protesters.
The protestors are more than likely anti-racist, does that mean all anti-racists are law breaking thugs?
The protestors are more than likely anti-racist, does that mean all anti-racists are law breaking thugs?
Only the ones that break the law
...and here's silly old me thinking it was now illegal to protest that close to, or outside of Parliament. Guess that law only applies to people opposing the current Labour Government, or when it fulfils a particular need of said Government, i.e. protesting against a rival party.
It does begs the question though, where exactly were the police when the leader of a fully legal political party was getting assaulted?
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It does begs the question though, where exactly were the police when the leader of a fully legal political party was getting assaulted?
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Who are they fleeing persecution from?
When eggs were pelted at labour and other mps, the pelters were arrested under the anti terror law et... seems like we have a 2 tier political system now.
Free speech for those you agree with, censor and ban those you don't agree with eh?
I think there was a party in Germany who used to do that.
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That is a bit petty, while much of what the BNP says is unpleasant it smacks of being a bad loser to do that.
That's a pretty big assumption to say that none of them would be persecuted any more and even if that were true the majority probably came across before any regime change so there is a good chance they're settled here now and contributing to society - is there any particular point in uprooting them again?
Protesting outside No. 10 and taking photographs of police officers - were these rights you often found yourself indulging in? Flippancy aside it is a problem that these rights have been restricted, we need to find a balance between limiting the dangers posed and restricting freedoms to achieve this - for what it matters I think we've gone too far in restricting freedoms with measures out of proportion to the risk.
Driving at a sensible speed? The Government hasn't changed the speed limits overall as far as I'm aware so are you asking for an increase in the speed limits?
We do have a democratic government, the expenses scandal perversely illustrates this point to an extent as people who have abused the system are being removed.
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How cynical.
From personal experience of the police failing to turn up in time and the reasons why offered on these forums; "Wow, do you think the police are at your beck and call? They must have had more important crimes to attend to!"
No one was really removed, just repositioned.