Istanbul - TURKEY Grand Prix 2009 - Race 7/17

Well it seems a FOTA breakup has occured? Unless Max included Red Bull/Ferrari unconitionally as they are contracted to race in F1 (according to him).

Yeah that was always going to happen for the reason you suggest rather than any FOTA split.
 
So Same teams as this season but with 3 new ones?

Campos Grand Prix
Manor Grand Prix
Team US F1
 
Max is playing silly buggers, the teams know it. Surely such politicking is only going to annoy the teams?
 
These five teams have submitted conditional entries.The FIA has invited them to lift those conditions following further discussions to be concluded not later than close of business on Friday 19 June.

BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM
PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING
RENAULT F1 TEAM
BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM
VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES
 
Fines for breaking rank with FOTA I would imagine.

Exactly the agreement signed by FOTA was all in or none in - and any team that breaks away from that an enters has to pay a fine of $50mil to each of the remaining FOTA teams.

So unless FOTA as a whole decides to enter Ferrari and RB cannot race next year.

Would be funny if Ferrari and RB refused to race and simply send Schumi and Coulthard to the races to shrug their shoulders and say "we got no cars man"
 
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Fines for breaking rank with FOTA I would imagine.

Yeah, thats what he was inferring but its the first Ive heard of such a fine.

Exactly the agreement signed by FOTA was all in or none in - and any team that breaks away from that an enters has to pay a fine of $50mil to each of the remaining FOTA teams.

So unless FOTA as a whole decides to enter Ferrari and RB cannot race next year.

Would be funny if Ferrari and RB refused to race and simply send Schumi and Coulthard to the races to shrug their shoulders and say "we got no cars man"

So Williams/Force India are under this agreement too?
 
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76048


FOTA want WMSC to intervene
AUTOSPORT said:
The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) has written to the FIA's Senate and World Motor Sport Council urging it to intervene in the row over entries to next year's championship, AUTOSPORT can reveal, as it warns the teams could be forced to walk away.

In an immediate response to the announcement by the FIA that FOTA's members have until June 19 to drop the conditions attached to their entries, the eight members of the teams' organisation pleaded for help in finding a 'swift solution' to the matter.

This comes despite Ferrari, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso all having been handed full entries to next year's championship - in lieu of commercial agreements made with the FIA and FOM committing them to the sport.

The letter makes it clear these entries were made ‘against the will' of the teams involved.

In the letter, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, the FOTA members state that the teams would ‘reluctantly' be forced to seek alternative solutions if the matter is not sorted out by next week.

"All of these teams are united in their concerns about the present situation and are deeply worried about the crisis that Formula 1 now faces, a crisis that appears to be self generated," wrote FOTA.

"The teams wish to find a swift solution to the situation, but in case this can not be done, they will reluctantly have to seek alternative solutions which protect them.

"In a final attempt to resolve this crisis, further meetings are scheduled for the next seven days. We would urge your support to ensure the outcome of these meetings achieves a solution that allows long established competitors to continue in their sport within a framework of sound governance and stability that will ensure the future and sustainability of Formula 1."

FOTA believes that it has not been ‘effective' in communicating with the governing body about its aims - and makes it clear that it wants to work in a ‘positive and constructive manner with the federation' to find a solution.

"Our fundamental wish is to work within a framework of cooperation and dialogue with the Federation to improve Formula 1 and to stop the confrontational and negative approach that has dominated the sport in recent years," the letter added.

"This approach compounded with constant announcements of regulatory changes, resulting from the unstable governance process that exists, has unfortunately created a situation of confusion and uncertainty among the public and sponsors. This situation is adversely affecting the business of both the teams and the organisers."

Furthermore, FOTA believes that the organisation's unhappiness about the way the sport is being run could be eased y the signing of a new Concorde Agreement.

"It is our view that by introducing the balanced and transparent basis of Governance which is defined in the 2009 Concorde Agreement (governance extract enclosed) we can restore a situation where the teams work in harmony with the Federation, a situation which can only be beneficial to all stakeholders.

"Accordingly, we have requested that the FIA join with FOM and the teams to sign a binding agreement that will bring stability at the very earliest opportunity, or alternatively, enter into a separate bi-lateral governance agreement between the teams and the FIA."

The letter added: "We wish to confirm that the teams are prepared to enter into binding commitment to enter in the championship until the end of 2012. This eliminates the misconception that certain teams are going to leave the sport and in doing this Formula 1 will establish a solid and stable platform for the future.

"All of the present competing teams in Formula 1 have significant investments in staff, factories and facilities. We request our level of commitment is respected and that we are allowed to address the changes needed due to the present economic climate in the most effective and efficient way for the participants with the correct governance from the regulatory body, the FIA.

"The existing FOTA teams understand the need to encourage and assist new entrants to the sport and we agree to undertake in good faith any reasonable measures that will help new teams establish their position in Formula 1."
 
Exactly the agreement signed by FOTA was all in or none in - and any team that breaks away from that an enters has to pay a fine of $50mil to each of the remaining FOTA teams.

So unless FOTA as a whole decides to enter Ferrari and RB cannot race next year.

Not entirely true, that agreement didn't cover Red Bull, only the 5 manufacturers - BMW, Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault and Toyota.

Would be funny if Ferrari and RB refused to race and simply send Schumi and Coulthard to the races to shrug their shoulders and say "we got no cars man"

Funny but expensive as the FIA would fine the hell out of them for not racing as per their contracts.
 
Ferrari have just published this press release on their website:

Ferrari shall not take part in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship until the conditions of its entry are satisfied

Maranello, 12th June 2009 - Following publication of the list of entries for the 2010 Formula One World Championship, which includes Ferrari as an unconditional entrant, Ferrari wishes to state the following:

• Ferrari submitted on 29 May 2009 an entry to the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship which is subject to certain conditions. As of today, these conditions have not been met;

• notwithstanding this and despite Ferrari's previous written notice to the FIA not to do so, the FIA has included Ferrari as a unconditional participant in next year's Formula One World Championship. For the avoidance of any doubt, Ferrari reaffirms that it shall not take part in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship under the regulations adopted by the FIA in violation of Ferrari's rights under a written agreement with the FIA.
 
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