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dirtydog said:
I wouldn't be that generous. In fact vouchers rather than cash might be a better idea.
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And yet people frequently accuse me of not caring...

Remember though that this thread is about the BNP, not about me - I am not a BNP politician and so don't speak for them, I can only speak for myself.
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I remember that, I also remember that you are a primary defender and advocator of the BNP in these threads, and can't help but notice you appear to be doing the same sleight of hand that the BNP do with regards to what you state vs what you believe. The BNP have their constitution which shows their real feelings, the only way we can find out yours is to ask, hence the questioning.

Your views may not help get an idea of the BNP politicians, but they are certainly useful in getting a look into the motivations and beliefs of a BNP supporter.
 
vee70 said:
In terms of placing no emphasis on culture or skin colour would your peers be happy for you to marry a non muslim white girl who had no intention of converting?
Would you be happy for your sister to have some white meat?
Or is there a double standard at play?
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I'm white, but I can honestly say that the skin colour, race or religion of my partner is irrelevant, as it would be for my children's partners. I would much prefer to judge things based on more relevant factors like what kind of person they are, what their financial status is, what opportunities they provide/deny and so on...
 
Chronictank said:
I absolutely agree with this idea, but unlike your proposal i would give it to EVERYONE regardless of their country of origin
Scoungers wouldnt be so happy to stay unemployed if all they got was the essentials
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If immigrants can't support themselves, they can go home. I don't mind the taxpayer giving them a free one way ticket :)
 
vee70 said:
In terms of placing no emphasis on culture or skin colour would your peers be happy for you to marry a non muslim white girl who had no intention of converting?
Would you be happy for your sister to have some white meat?
Or is there a double standard at play?
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Why would they have a problem???...if your going to start on about Islam then i suggest you do some reading as muslims are allowed to marry people of the book ie the bible and torah ;).

They wouldnt be happy but then clearly its my choice and happiness that counts.

Luckily i havent got a sister but if she was happy with white/pink meat then yes id be happy as long as he treated her well:).


Personally like someone mentioned a few posts ago...i judge people on their actions whether they be white, black, brown, yellow or blue...skin colour has never been an issue for me when it comes to dating nor is it a problem with my peers or parents although they are pretty religious and strict.
Just because im muslim doesnt mean im your typical Quran bashing muslim...nor am i a terrorist with suicidal tendencies:).
 
Dolph said:
You do realise christanity was imported, right (the country worshipped a variety of pagan deities prior to it)? Christianity and the close association it has had with the history of this country, and it originated in the middle east, and was brought to the UK initially by the Romans, and then took hold over the next few hundred years.

So yes, I would say that imported culture has had huge impact on the history and culture of the UK.
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Ahh right, we welcomed the Roman invasion! Unless you are comparing the current state of immigration to a Roman invasion which the people have no say in, which is fairly accurate........

You claimed we have always welcomed other cultures and now talk about forced invasions as though it is the same thing.
 
Chronictank said:
I absolutely agree with this idea, but unlike your proposal i would give it to EVERYONE regardless of their country of origin
Scoungers wouldnt be so happy to stay unemployed if all they got was the essentials
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Food vouchers have been suggested before, in fact don't asylum seekers get them? I seem to recall the politically correct asking for them to be withdrawn as they somehow violated a human right or hurt someones feelings or something.
 
vee70 said:
Food vouchers have been suggested before, in fact don't asylum seekers get them? I seem to recall the politically correct asking for them to be withdrawn as they somehow violated a human right or hurt someones feelings or something.
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They still exist if you are poor enough, problem is that people on employment-benefits get a income too for everything else
If they had vouchers for everything (i mean everything) and a very small income benefit they wouldnt be so happy to stay on it
I am talking enough for basic clothes, no more nike, addidas or whatever kids wear nowdays

Btw i am Muslim going out with a Jewish girl, my parents have yet to honour kill either of us
 
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Spawn said:
Why would they have a problem???...if your going to start on about Islam then i suggest you do some reading as muslims are allowed to marry people of the book ie the bible and torah ;).
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I don't know why they'd have a problem, I just asked IF they would.
Spawn said:
They wouldnt be happy but then clearly its my choice and happiness that counts.
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Why wouldn't they be happy?
Spawn said:
Luckily i havent got a sister but if she was happy with white/pink meat then yes id be happy as long as he treated her well:).
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That is good to know.
Spawn said:
Personally like someone mentioned a few posts ago...i judge people on their actions whether they be white, black, brown, yellow or blue...skin colour has never been an issue for me when it comes to dating nor is it a problem with my peers or parents although they are pretty religious and strict.
Just because im muslim doesnt mean im your typical Quran bashing muslim...nor am i a terrorist with suicidal tendencies:).
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I just wondered why you made an issue of having a white girlfriend? As an aside would she find your description of her "being happy to have brown meat" respectful? I'm just wondering if that's what you meant by treating her well.
 
just to point out, there is more to contributing to the UK economy than how much tax you pay
Imagine how many employee's those businesses have, how much tax through VAT so on and so forth

I doubt very many rich people pay that much tax unfortunately as they can afford accountants
 
vee70 said:
I don't know why they'd have a problem, I just asked IF they would.
Why wouldn't they be happy?
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I dont know perhaps they would rather me be with an asian muslim girl??...but thats their view and they are entitled to it...i know plenty of non asian people/parents who would rather their kids stick to their kind...heck a lot of my ex gfs parents didnt approve of me...but thats their problem, not mine.


vee70 said:
I just wondered why you made an issue of having a white girlfriend? As an aside would she find your description of her "being happy to have brown meat" respectful? I'm just wondering if that's what you meant by treating her well.
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I didnt make an issue of it, i was having a bit of a joke with DD...you obviously missed the bit where i said i was joking about the brown meat bit. As for my gf??..well im single but my ex's never had a problem with it...in fact they were the ones who would tease me about them having some 'brown' meat in them...i wasnt the one who started it off...but it was all good as they could see the funny side of it and i never made an issue of them calling me their bit of brown meat.

Massive fail on your part vee...you do remind me of a certain poster we had who thought he was smarter than the rest of us...not saying you are him but the way you post and your views are pretty similar to him.
 
Chronictank said:
just to point out, there is more to contributing to the UK economy than how much tax you pay
Imagine how many employee's those businesses have, how much tax through VAT so on and so forth

I doubt very many rich people pay that much tax unfortunately as they can afford accountants
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Or if they're Labour ministers they just charge the cost of their accountants to the taxpayer on expenses ;)
 
vee70 said:
Ahh right, we welcomed the Roman invasion! Unless you are comparing the current state of immigration to a Roman invasion which the people have no say in, which is fairly accurate........

You claimed we have always welcomed other cultures and now talk about forced invasions as though it is the same thing.
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Some people did welcome the Romans into the UK, indeed the first relationships, although the Romans may have desired invasion, were decidedly diplomatic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Britain

I suppose you could argue that circumstances were somewhat similar, in that the people had little say while the rulers welcomed and encouraged the association.

My point was that 'British' culture (which really is a misnomer, as there is no homogenous British or even English culture that can be taken in historical context like this) isn't something that is easily identified, and can be shown as something that 'X' is a threat to. Society has changed massively in the last 60-70 years, and it would have done if immigration had been zero, due to social and economic shifts on a massive scale. If we are so intent on preserving tradition 'british' culture, then we have far more to worry about than a few immigrants.
 
Chronictank said:
just to point out, there is more to contributing to the UK economy than how much tax you pay
Imagine how many employee's those businesses have, how much tax through VAT so on and so forth

I doubt very many rich people pay that much tax unfortunately as they can afford accountants
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From what I briefly read it doesn't appear that he has any UK employees.
 
Dolph said:
Society has changed massively in the last 60-70 years, and it would have done if immigration had been zero, due to social and economic shifts on a massive scale. If we are so intent on preserving tradition 'british' culture, then we have far more to worry about than a few immigrants.
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I would say that immigrants over the past 60-70 years have not played that large of a role in the change of UK society - seeing as many of the immigrants during that period were from India and Pakistan and about the only thing that they have changed was to make our most favourite dish be Chicken Tika.
 
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