The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Dolph · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:18

dirtydog said:
With respect, how much experience do you have of our towns and cities outside Devon, which as far as I know isn't exactly a hotbed of immigration.

Let's see, I used to visit London (specifically Clapham, in the Lambeth borough, which has a very high diversity rate) weekly. When I was younger, my mother was heavily involved in working with ethnic minorities in Ipswich (specifically bangladeshi mothers), as well as her wealthy white practice, as a community midwife, and I've seen the results, good and bad, of the sort of leadership employed in such a community.

I regularly visit towns and cities all over the UK, and with the exception of Birmingham, I've never felt uncomfortable in the presence of large numbers of ethnic minorities, and Birmingham is a city with no redeeming features anyway, irrespective of it's areas of non-white friendly attitude.

Is that enough?

vee70 · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:18

likwid said:
Oh you're good! That is very clever what you have just done.

thanks....

likwid said:
You join this forum and spend two whole days leading conversation against immigration and multiculturalism,

Oh really? Care to show that?

likwid said:
yet you claim you have no opinion and you're only slightly centre right

I am? I'm sitting on my sofa, did you think that was a political metaphor?

likwid said:
because everything you have said has been in the form of a question.

I see, asking people questions about why they hold certain views is bad........ oh and makes me sinister....

likwid said:
I don't know who you are

what difference does it make? I'm a middle class, well paid, family man in a professional role with no political affiliations at all.....

likwid said:
but you're far too good at this

at "this"?

likwid said:
and I strongly suspect you are from the BNP.

ROFL!!!!!

likwid said:
If I have time this weekend I'll compile your concealed diatribe over the last two days into a form that can be read.

Diatribe!! Hahahahaha. I'm only asking people to explain their strongly worded opinions and statements with some actual reasoning....

likwid said:
Frankly I find the whole thing very sinister.

Are you running short of medication? I've never been a fan of "care in the community". Perhaps some tinfoil wil help or perhaps you're just a paranoid weirdo.

You know what it could be...... well, it could be that I am simply used to holding discussions with intelligent adults where we reasoning rather than emotional responses are the key to communication. Perhaps you've not experienced that before.

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:19

likwid said:
Oh you're good! That is very clever what you have just done.

You join this forum and spend two whole days leading conversation against immigration and multiculturalism, yet you claim you have no opinion and you're only slightly centre right because everything you have said has been in the form of a question.

I don't know who you are but you're far too good at this and I strongly suspect you are from the BNP. If I have time this weekend I'll compile your concealed diatribe over the last two days into a form that can be read. Frankly I find the whole thing very sinister.

Cryogenic · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:19

dirtydog said:
Sounds like a non-sequitur. Just because you aren't racist doesn't mean your party is for everyone. The BNP is for native Britons and represents their interests

What is a 'native' Briton? Someone black who was born here?

Doohickey · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:19

vee70 said:
I thought you were just giving us another one

You thought incorrectly.

Dolph · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:20

dirtydog said:
Even if he talks nonsense most of the time, based on a fantasy view of the world due to inexperience of real life.

Sorry, can you give me some examples of what real life experience I lack? I mean, sure I haven't claimed the dole (I took a job in McDonalds on minimum wage instead) and I haven't been invovled in the criminal justice system (because I obey the laws of the land) but is there anything else I'm missing in your esteemed opinion?

Rich_L · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:21

Yeah you have to be a scummy benefit-claiming convicted serial drink-driver to be living in the real world, duh...

vee70 · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:22

Doohickey said:
You thought incorrectly.

A third! Thanks for sharing

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:22

Dolph said:
Let's see, I used to visit London (specifically Clapham, in the Lambeth borough, which has a very high diversity rate) weekly. When I was younger, my mother was heavily involved in working with ethnic minorities in Ipswich (specifically bangladeshi mothers), as well as her wealthy white practice, as a community midwife, and I've seen the results, good and bad, of the sort of leadership employed in such a community.

I regularly visit towns and cities all over the UK, and with the exception of Birmingham, I've never felt uncomfortable in the presence of large numbers of ethnic minorities, and Birmingham is a city with no redeeming features anyway, irrespective of it's areas of non-white friendly attitude.

Is that enough?

No because you visit these areas or view them from a distance but don't have to suffer the consequences of living in them up close and personal, do you.

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:23

Rich_L said:
Yeah you have to be a scummy benefit-claiming convicted serial drink-driver to be living in the real world, duh...

I see what you did there.

Doohickey · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:24

vee70 said:
A third! Thanks for sharing

D'oh you win.

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:26

Rich_L I just posted 'somewhere else' you can have your say.

Dolph · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:26

dirtydog said:
No because you visit these areas or view them from a distance but don't have to suffer the consequences of living in them up close and personal, do you.

So to understand, do I have to adopt racist views then live in an area with a high number of ethnics, which is always going to work to upset someone.

Rich_L · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:26

dirtydog said:
No because you visit these areas or view them from a distance but don't have to suffer the consequences of living in them up close and personal, do you.

I do. But apparently I earn too much to be living in the real world.

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:27

Rich_L said:
I do. But apparently I earn too much to be living in the real world.

Where did I say that? Quote please...

Dolph · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:28

Rich_L said:
I do. But apparently I earn too much to be living in the real world.

Sucks to be us doesn't it in our little fantasy world.

The thing is, I can't help feeling if it wasn't the immigrants it would be someone else's fault. There are loads of people with victim mentality in Plymouth who don't have immigrants and ethnics to blame who manage to blame someone else just fine after all...

Rich_L · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:30

dirtydog said:
Where did I say that? Quote please...

Apparently my job precludes me from experiencing the real world

It can't be where I live after all, what with it being one of the most culturally and ethnically diverse areas in the country...

White British people are a ethnic minority within Haringey, forming just 45% of the population.

Oh noes I can has minority status?

dirtydog · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:30

I enjoyed this thread. I rated it five stars, so I did. Five of them. Five!

Dolph · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:31

Rich_L said:
Apparently my job precludes me from experiencing the real world

It can't be where I live after all, what with it being one of the most culturally and ethnically diverse areas in the country...

Oh noes I can has minority status?

*pins an 'I'm a Minority' badge to Rich's lapel*

vee70 · 12 Jun 2009 at 20:34

Dolph said:
Sucks to be us doesn't it in our little fantasy world.

The thing is, I can't help feeling if it wasn't the immigrants it would be someone else's fault. There are loads of people with victim mentality in Plymouth who don't have immigrants and ethnics to blame who manage to blame someone else just fine after all...

There is always someone to blame, parents, teachers, management, government etc, etc.
However immigration brings some issues with it that are unique to immigration such as ......... lots more people fitting into the same space and competing for the same jobs, housing, schools and so on.
It is these issues that seem to be at the forefront of the concerns over immigration if I am correct in understanding the jist of various polls and newspaper articles.
Here is one detailing a recent yougov poll.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...-cut-by-80-percent-yougov-poll_100195008.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...Labour-and-Tory-voters-YouGov-poll-shows.html

Another link here but about 1 year old looking at potential outcomes from immigration.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7352125.stm