life after death

Tony Williams said:
I wanna live forever!!!! :(
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This is the strangest thing I find about people clinging to religion as a way to not have to face up to death being the complete end of you. Who wants to literally live forever, when you really really think about the concept its just truly and utterly terrifying. Right now I get bored pretty easily, tv's often the same stuff over and over, very little thats truly original, Books, the odd great one but lots of rehashed crap. Can you honestly imagine playing football for 7 trillion years, with other people who have played for as long, not only would it be boring playing in real life every single day for 100 years, but forever?

Just how many games of footie, tv shows, meals, walks, rounds of golf would it take before you went out of your mind from utter boredom.

Theres the idea that say heaven is blissful all the time, would that mean you can't feel sadness or pain in any way at all, its only our ability to feel sadness and pain that gives us a quantifyable measure with which to feel happyness/joy to the same level. If you were simply happy all the time it would just feel dull and hollow and not real.

The very idea of living forever is the most awful thing I think could ever happen to anyone and the fact that so many people use the idea as an escape, without a seconds thought to how truly terrible it would be is hilarious to me.

I'd prefer to live life, enjoy it and be able to feel pain and joy to equal extremes with an eventual end, than live forever and not have a single action I ever take mean a damn thing ever.
 
howiepoohs said:
All evidence suggests that death is mearly the total failure of the conscious and unconscious mind. The body is then disposed of. As egocentric beings, we find this hard to accept and make up stories about it to cheer us up a touch. This makes it eaiser to accept that total nothingness awaits and you wont even be aware of it.
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This.
 
Im 50/50 because no proof of either and also i am 45 years old and want some hope :P but if i was younger i would have said for sure a big no too life after death.
 
drunkenmaster said:
This is the strangest thing I find about people clinging to religion as a way to not have to face up to death being the complete end of you. Who wants to literally live forever, when you really really think about the concept its just truly and utterly terrifying. Right now I get bored pretty easily, tv's often the same stuff over and over, very little thats truly original, Books, the odd great one but lots of rehashed crap. Can you honestly imagine playing football for 7 trillion years, with other people who have played for as long, not only would it be boring playing in real life every single day for 100 years, but forever?

Just how many games of footie, tv shows, meals, walks, rounds of golf would it take before you went out of your mind from utter boredom.

Theres the idea that say heaven is blissful all the time, would that mean you can't feel sadness or pain in any way at all, its only our ability to feel sadness and pain that gives us a quantifyable measure with which to feel happyness/joy to the same level. If you were simply happy all the time it would just feel dull and hollow and not real.

The very idea of living forever is the most awful thing I think could ever happen to anyone and the fact that so many people use the idea as an escape, without a seconds thought to how truly terrible it would be is hilarious to me.

I'd prefer to live life, enjoy it and be able to feel pain and joy to equal extremes with an eventual end, than live forever and not have a single action I ever take mean a damn thing ever.
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I would still love to live forever, really - I doubt I'd get bored, books and tv shows are made all the time there will always be something new to get interested in. I would love to be able to to sit down in 2000 and see how the planet has devoloped, see how chavs have evolved. But on the other hand what kind of women would want someone who is 566 years old, unless you could look like a cool 20-odd year old ... like Jesus. :)
 
The idea circulating in this thread that anyone who has a full or partial belief in life after death does so purely because of the need for a hope of overcoming their own mortality is incredibly naive and shows a complete disregard, and lack of knowledge, for the concepts involved in such a debate and the kind of literature written on the subject. The same goes for anyone inferring that religion in all forms is merely some form of escapism from our own mortality.
 
Tefal said:
isn't the dust to dust part from god creating Adam from dirt?
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No idea, I'm taking the statement at face value.

Carzy said:
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Forget the literature Carzy, it's all hocus pocus. You may deny the true reasons for believing in life after death and religion, yet you fail to come up with a more logical reason for them. People have become inclined to religion for the most tragic and pathetic reasons.

There is no such thing as a higher power.
 
Tefal said:
isn't the dust to dust part from god creating Adam from dirt?
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Well, although I realise it is much more complicated than this, the amount of carbon in our bodies (and even stuff like calcium that often exists in a dusty form), means a literal interpretation of this line is not totally absurd in reality either.
 
Our bodies can live forever, thats whats the scary thing not now but in 300 years we'll not die of old age etc... but we'll die from car crashs etc...
 
Maybe when we die, our consciousness can go different ways, possible re emerge as another being or something, but in a way we do not realise, as if all our memories have being erased.

I cant imagine dead, nothingness for eternity, just does not make sense.
 
willhub said:
Maybe when we die, our consciousness can go different ways, possible re emerge as another being or something, but in a way we do not realise, as if all our memories have being erased.

I cant imagine dead, nothingness for eternity, just does not make sense.
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There's nothing to imagine.

It's like a light being on...then off. It's not like sitting there in the dark.
 
mrk said:
Death is not a physical part of the universe though so cannot follow the same principal!
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how do mean physical? afaik death is part of life and it is present in the universe too , you can see stuff dying all the time so death exists. I probably dont understand how you mean physical :)
 
There is no life after death, your brain dies - end of story. Life after death is a wonderful ideas but there's as much proof of it as there is of fairies living down the end of my garden.

I don't have a problem with dying, as an atheist I just enjoy what I have and marvel in the fact that I'm alive for now. If anything else, since becoming an atheist it's made me enjoy life more, not less :)

I don't like the idea of my parents of family members dying and that's "the end of them" *poof* out of existance they go, but that's some part of my thought processes now thanks to my strict Catholic upbringing and my brain trying to cling onto the fairy tales again!
 
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