Refund on Ebay MJ tickets?

Steedie said:
Because it's the decent thing to do

I'm sure you'd expect a refund if it was you in the buyers shoes
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I honestly wouldn't expect a penny back actually. It was completely out of the sellers control. Were this not MJ, and it was say, a cancelled football match... nobody would expect the seller to refund.

It's just the fact it's Michael bloody Jackson... I've had enough of the news already.
 
Steedie said:
Because it's the decent thing to do

I'm sure you'd expect a refund if it was you in the buyers shoes
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I honestly wouldn't expect a penny back actually. It was completely out of the sellers control. Were this not MJ, and it was say, a cancelled football match... nobody would expect the seller to refund.

It's just the fact it's Michael bloody Jackson... I've had enough of the news already.
 
So is it feasable that, if I were the person who originally bought the tickets from an official outlet and have records of serial numbers etc, then decided to flog them on ebay that I can both refuse to refund the person that I sold them onto AND claim my money back for the tickets too?

Some of you people are proper shysters. Shame on you.
 
What would happen if you sold a Sky box to someone as a vendor, and then Sky as a company stopped broadcasting?

I don't think the Vendor would be under any obligation to refund the box
 
What if he has(or you have) already spent the money from the ticket towards something and cannot afford to refund, or would put him out of pocket.

Screw that.
 
There's absolutely no reason why he should refund if the buyer has the physical tickets. Obviously if he hadn't yet delivered the tickets then that would be an entirely different situation but once a transaction is done and dusted with nothing left to the control of the seller then why should the seller act as an insurer for the buyer?

Completely bonkers to suggest otherwise - nothing to do with being decent.

Luckily for the buyer ebay have covered it anyway.
 
Two phrases spring to mind:

Caveat emptor - Let the buyer beware

and

Sold as seen

First one doesn't apply because buyer can get refund from eBay (let them carry the can). Second one certainly applies, why should seller be held liable. This is nothing to do with rights or wrongs or profiteering from someone's death. These sales were made PRIOR to his death and nothing short of a crystal ball would make any of the sellers profiteers.
 
Jeff Lynne said:
I love threads on forums like these that are honeytraps to show just how dishonest and how much you should trust certain members. Notebooks should be coming and and usernames should be written down.
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Nothing dishhonest about it. Items are sold as seen. The seller should not lose out. Even ebay have said if you can't get a refund of the seller, ebay will refund you. that tells you all you need to know. Even ebay doesn't think teh seller should have to refund.
 
And thats why you don't buy tickets on ebay. Keep the money and let Ebay sort out the refund for the guy you sold them too.
 
Tbh id not refund

But then I'm not sure why people actually thought he was going to do these concerts even if he didn't die. He would have gotten a weeks worth out the way and ran.
 
wannabedamned said:
What would happen if you sold a Sky box to someone as a vendor, and then Sky as a company stopped broadcasting?

I don't think the Vendor would be under any obligation to refund the box
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Poor Analogy really, as you would still have the hardware you paid for.
If you are going off this, then the original poster should ask for the "souvenir" tickets from AEG, and send them to the buyer.

But if what has been said is true, and ebay themselves are providing the refund, I would not bother at all. But if they are not, I would offer a full refund or offer them the souvenir tickets.
 
The transaction isn't complete as the buyer hasn't received the tickets yet. When the tickets do turn up they will no longer meet the description in the auction as they are no longer tickets to an MJ concert as the concert no longer exists.

MW
 
Ah well if the tickets haven't been delivered to the buyer then that could well be an entirely different story.

Contract is almost certainly frustrated and legally you have to pay the buyer back.
 
sven256 said:
Poor Analogy really, as you would still have the hardware you paid for.
If you are going off this, then the original poster should ask for the "souvenir" tickets from AEG, and send them to the buyer.

But if what has been said is true, and ebay themselves are providing the refund, I would not bother at all. But if they are not, I would offer a full refund or offer them the souvenir tickets.
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He has the ticket he paid for. In the analogy the Sky box = Ticket, The sky service = Jacko
 
wannabedamned said:
You have the ticket you paid for surely? In the analogy the Sky box = Ticket, The sky service = Jacko
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No tickets are sent out yet, as far as i know. So the ebay buyer would not have his, and the only way to get one, is to opt for the souvenir ticket. Which you have to pay full face value for.
 
wush said:
Jeff, you do realise that every buyer has been guaranteed a full refund from Ebay (not the seller)?
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Having thought about it, I reckon this is actually why eBay have offered an unequivocal refund regardless. Its such a grey area that they can't force refunds...
 
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