Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
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So no evidence and no statistical reports to back up a theory.
Just a test for something more or less unrelated on 18 subjects.
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wrong link?
The link is right, sorry should have explained the tested drug works on NMDA receptors by blocking glutamine.
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Yup 
, the website mite be a load of drivel but factually what their saying is creditable, besides like I said I cant get onto a proper medical database atm, ive seen the evidence in other trials, that is 3 years out of date.
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, the website mite be a load of drivel but factually what their saying is creditable, besides like I said I cant get onto a proper medical database atm, ive seen the evidence in other trials, that is 3 years out of date.Hawker
So no evidence and no statistical reports to back up a theory.
Just a test for something more or less unrelated on 18 subjects.
After reading that site for 10 seconds or so I'm pretty sure I'll eventually find evidence and a link of how MSG shot JFK
I wouldn't trust any government advice these days, they are too easily swayed by lobby groups. You only have to look at the copyright lobby group and see how much power they have. Didn't this government get caught with regards to motosport and cigarette advertising.
Wasn't smoking considered healthy? And all the scientists who had evidence it wasn't descredited. This isn't tin foil hat way of thinking, it is a realistic way of looking at the world without being a fool.
If you are going to use 'evidence' that claims such and such a thing is true, dig a little deeper and see who funding this. Recently the copyright lobby in Canada was funding numerous groups who all came to the same conclusion about how copyright was damaging the industry, despite evidence that the majority of those who downloaded actually bought MORE records then those who didn't.
Personally I avoid the stuff. Advice on items like these is often contridicted later on. Aspestos, Eggs, Thalidamine.
Two of those were deemed to be safe by scientific studies.
Eggs were deemed to be causing heart disease and cancers.
Go figure.
If you need to add MSG to a food to make it taste nice then you really need to learn how to cook properly.
Wasn't smoking considered healthy? And all the scientists who had evidence it wasn't descredited. This isn't tin foil hat way of thinking, it is a realistic way of looking at the world without being a fool.
If you are going to use 'evidence' that claims such and such a thing is true, dig a little deeper and see who funding this. Recently the copyright lobby in Canada was funding numerous groups who all came to the same conclusion about how copyright was damaging the industry, despite evidence that the majority of those who downloaded actually bought MORE records then those who didn't.
Personally I avoid the stuff. Advice on items like these is often contridicted later on. Aspestos, Eggs, Thalidamine.
Two of those were deemed to be safe by scientific studies.
Eggs were deemed to be causing heart disease and cancers.
Go figure.
If you need to add MSG to a food to make it taste nice then you really need to learn how to cook properly.
Yup
Hawker
Well when you can, if you can post I would be very interested. As I can't find anything other than links back to that trial.
Easy peasy way of finding out.
Use google scholar.
http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=monosodium+glutamate
Some interesting reading.
Easy peasy way of finding out.
Use google scholar.
http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=monosodium+glutamate
Some interesting reading.
Very few seem to be human trial and even less double blind trials.
Although this one supports the FASEB findings
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9215242
that some people may have MSG intolerance of doses above 3grams. But this reports found 2.5grams to be the threshold.
Glutamate is already present in lots of natural foods and is not just an additive
My parents has always used MSG to cook the food and it's great.
Few years ago people are claiming MSGs are bad for you. Rumours include how your hair would fall off if you put MSG into your food. Then alternative products were made to replace MSG, which is the powerded version of chicken stock extract, also a vegterian version of which contains the powdered extract of mushrooms.
The chicken version of this replacement turn out to be chicken bones that been grinded into powder. Most of the restaurants and takeaway that does not use MSG will be using this instead, which acts like a MSG anyways.
When my parents or any chinese family that use MSG in their cooking would only use 1/3 of a teaspoon in each dish, which compared to like half of tablespoon full of MSG used by restaurant chefs, hence the dish would usually be tastier
Few years ago people are claiming MSGs are bad for you. Rumours include how your hair would fall off if you put MSG into your food. Then alternative products were made to replace MSG, which is the powerded version of chicken stock extract, also a vegterian version of which contains the powdered extract of mushrooms.
The chicken version of this replacement turn out to be chicken bones that been grinded into powder. Most of the restaurants and takeaway that does not use MSG will be using this instead, which acts like a MSG anyways.
When my parents or any chinese family that use MSG in their cooking would only use 1/3 of a teaspoon in each dish, which compared to like half of tablespoon full of MSG used by restaurant chefs, hence the dish would usually be tastier
The Chinese haven't been able to afford it until relatively recently. I think you mean the Japanese.
As I said earlier, if you need to add MSG to a product it's because
a) the food tastes of nothing without it.
b) you cannot cook properly.
The reason MSG is added to some many convience food is due to a) and it is the same reason the Japanese add it to so many of their dishes.
Do you know what would happen if you ate a convience meal without MSG? It would most likely taste revolting, or you would be able to taste all the sugar and salt.
How you seen how much salt is in food these days? 6g is supposed to be the max limit. MSG adds to the salt levels in food. MSG is not safe as it contains sodium which is the issue with a high salt intake.
MSG does have an effect on unborn animals. Does the placenta prevent MSG from crossing into the neonatal bloodstream? if it doesn't, then a lot your children are going to have serious health issues due to MSG.
Still half baked? Think again.
What part of "if you need to add" did you not understand?
My point is that it is already there whether you can cook properly or not
In this respect MSG is propably a lot safer than using salt due to reduced amount you need to flavour the dish. Unfortunately, as you correctly pointed out, restaurants load their dishes with it. As do the convience meal industry.
I accept using MSG as a substitute for salt.
Glutamate is an amino acid, so of course it is going to be present in some foods.
MSG != glutamte
Yes the placenta stops it.
And no animals do not suffer from it. Mice do. They have a different reaction than humans and most other animals.
So yes it is half baked at best.