Will you take the Swine Flu Jab?

Tefal said:
what happened in 1977 other than the final irradiation of smallpox ?
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As a result of mass immunisation for the fear of an influenza pandemic, many Americans (1-10k) contracted Guillian-Barre syndrome and died due to a reaction of sorts with the vaccine.
 
Here's some interesting information regarding the Guillian-Barre syndrome I managed to dig up from my influenza A studying:

For fear of a H1N1 outbreak (the same subtype as todays swine flu), 48 million Americans were vaccinated ~1977 at the cost of $330 million. Only 6 cases of the flu were recorded. However, 500 people contracted Guillian-Barre syndrome (appx. 10 cases for every 1 million vaccinations).

Today, there is apprx 1 case of Guillian-Barre syndrome for every million flu vaccinations.
 
Nitefly said:
Here's some interesting information regarding the Guillian-Barre syndrome I managed to dig up from my influenza A studying:

For fear of a H1N1 outbreak (the same subtype as todays swine flu), 48 million Americans were vaccinated ~1977 at the cost of $330 million. Only 6 cases of the flu were recorded. However, 500 people contracted Guillian-Barre syndrome (appx. 10 cases for every 1 million vaccinations).

Today, there is apprx 1 case of Guillian-Barre syndrome for every million flu vaccinations.
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So going back to those stats, it doesn't even come close to comparing to swine flu in terms of death rate does it?
 
I say, bring it on. The sooner I get it, the better. I mean, for the love of christ, it's a mild flu strain. I've already got hayfever, what's the worst that could happen? I just wanna get in, pull through & print myself an 'I survived swine flu' t-shirt.
 
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oli collett said:
So going back to those stats, it doesn't even come close to comparing to swine flu in terms of death rate does it?
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I'm not really sure what you mean by that, but if you are suggesting that if in the circumstance that all UK civillians recieved the vaccine and if the current swine flu trend continued, there would be a relatively low loss of life from Guillian-Barre syndrome in comparison to 2009 swine flu, you would probably be correct.

Swine flu has already shown itself to be far more contagious than the 1977 strain and has the potential to cause many more deaths. In terms of cost, it is extremely unlikely that we would make a similar 'wasteful' judgement in terms of money and lives.
 
Christo said:
All Ill say is - 1977.. Im not saying it will happen, Im saying the standard testing has been skipped, thats all.
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Except - ta da - it isn't. Flu vaccines are rolled out on this kind of schedule every year. They go through the same testing every year they're going to get this time.
 
I reckon i've got it, Although I have no fever or aches but I feel like I have an inflating balloon in my sinuses, throat is starting to get sore (ish) and I can feel my lungs filling up (hurrah). I guess it could be just a normal summer head cold but how likely is that with this virus doing the rounds. Joy
 
I expect my housemate to get it...what happens in cases like this? Are you expected to move out for a bit whilst they get better? If he had normal flu I'd just avoid him and wash my hands a bit more...
 
we need to watch the southern hemisphere to see how the winter is going to accelerate this to Danger levels.

argentina have had it bad with a Very high % of deaths :eek:
 
dirtydog said:
Very interesting to hear Ron Paul's views on swine flu and the vaccine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB5-Y08qbjo&feature=related
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He compares swine flu to tuberculosis, and argues that we don't vaccinate against Tb, despite it causing far more deaths each year than flu. What he fails to realise is that flu vaccinations are effective, whereas the BCG is not - it is not the recognition of TB by the immune system that is the problem; the problem is that TB is very resistant to our bodies mechanisms of trying to kill it.

He then says that during a previous flu outbreak, a massive vaccination programme resulted in deaths from the vaccine, more so than deaths from the flu virus. I don't know the facts of that outbreak, but I think that what he is saying is likely on the wrong track - deaths from flu would likly have been much larger had they not mass-vaccinated. I also don't agree with his statement that the government should have no role in matters of public health. The state has a responsibility to prevent deaths from outbreaks, and increase personal and herd immunity by funding widespread vaccination.

What part of what he said did you find interesting or agree with?
 
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