Drogba and Bosingwa bans reduced

I also think it ridiculous to say the ref doesn't get grief/sworn at by Rooney every match.

He hardly does it all anymore, aye he was terrible for it at one point but last season he was sound as.

^:eek:

I cant believe Bosingwa wasn't suspended for that.

Exactly, now do you see why other clubs may be slightly ****ed off that Chelsea get away with stuff like this?
 
I wouldn't expect you to watch a lot of Man Utd games, so I don't know how you can hold that view with such certainty.

They're always on the highlights. Yes, it's highlights, but it's still every week... (unless MotD splice in imagery from other matches. Possible, but not particularly probably).
 
Gustov the fact your bringing the "we were robbed" arguement in here for their actions is... well there's no other word for it... retarded. You're not the first team/fans to feel robbed by an official and you certainly won't be the last.

Your inability to read is... well there's no other word for it... retarded.

I am not condoning Drogba's and I am not justifying his actions.

Regardless of his behavior do I feel we were robbed? Yes.

There's a difference between being 'robbed' and a complete disgrace.

I really don't understand how difficult it is to understand my argument. Here it is again. Drogba deserved everything he got and his ban shouldn't have been reduced. That's not to say the referee shouldn't be demoted.

Exactly, now do you see why other clubs may be slightly ****ed off that Chelsea get away with stuff like this?

Yes, completely. I heard that the reason he didn't get banned for it was because the lino didn't see it.

Due to the circumstances, (5 penalty shouts/Barca should have been down to 10 men after 20 mins) I would like to think fans of opposing teams have a tiny bit of sympathy for what happened to Chelsea against Barca, but then again, I very much doubt it.
 
Last edited:
:confused:

That makes so much sense! :eek::o

Yes, it does. The fact that the lino saw it meant that it hadn't been missed. The fact that it hadn't been missed means that retrospective action cannot take place (unless it suits whichever **** decides to stick his beak in from FIFA). If the lino hadn't seen it, he would have been punished.
 
Yes, completely. I heard that the reason he didn't get banned for it was because the lino didn't see it.

Due to the circumstances, (5 penalty shouts/Barca should have been down to 10 men after 20 mins) I would like to think fans of opposing teams have a tiny bit of sympathy for what happened to Chelsea against Barca, but then again, I very much doubt it.

Sharpy where did 5 penalty shouts come from ? :D you're like John Terry after the game, "had a million penalties turned down"

Barcelona should not of been down to ten men, it was a mistake.
There was one penalty turned down in the first leg, ballack on someone, which was as much a penalty as Drogba's dive. He didn't give either. fair play.

Chelsea got off lightly, Drogba should have had a much longer ban imo, Ballack should have been banned.

I said before, and I'll say it again, eyebrows just mouthed off to the media, managers do it every so often, a one game ban would have done, two at a push.

Chelsea's fine was spare change.

Replace Chelsea, Drogba, Ballack and eyebrows with any other football team in europe, and I'll say the same thing.

*Manchester United players getting off lightly :D
Like Chelsea staff been racist to Evra and then he gets banned :D
 
Copied from my CL thread

wow...

Incident 1- Florent Malouda was pulled down INSIDE the box, for me a penalty. I will give the referee the benefit of the doubt as its one of those controversial ones but imo still a pen.

Incident 2- You won't see a more blatant penalty. Drogba's shirt was pulled AND his leg was tripped. No more needs to be said, how this wasn't given is a DISGRACE. Abidal should have been sent off, barca down to 10 and Chelsea 2-0 up with 60-70 mins to go?

Incident 3- Pique handball was like above as BLATENT a penalty you'll ever see. Anelka was going to take the ball around him and potentially score

Incident 4- Yet again another penalty but one you sometimes get and sometimes don't. Most importantly though Eto'o MOVES HIS ARMS IN THE AIR and clearly blocks the direction of the ball. If his hands are down by his waist its not penalty but the fact is his arms were in the AIR.
I'd like to remind you the one against Chelsea when Belletti put his arms up in the air. against Juventus.
Barcelona should not of been down to ten men, it was a mistake.

It was a mistake that he wasn't sent off after 20 minuets. He can count himself lucky.
 
Last edited:
I actually thought Bosingwa was the one who chased the ref down the pitch - didn't realise it was Ballack!

In which case, how on Earth did Ballack not get any kind of punishment for that? It's was by far and away the worst thing anybody on that pitch did that night.

Utterly ridiculous.
 
Incident 1- Florent Malouda was pulled down INSIDE the box, for me a penalty. I will give the referee the benefit of the doubt as its one of those controversial ones but imo still a pen.


Foul, first occurred outside the box, iirc, which means that the Ref can give it where it occurred, or where it finished. Not a penalty for me.

Incident 2- You won't see a more blatant penalty. Drogba's shirt was pulled AND his leg was tripped. No more needs to be said, how this wasn't given is a DISGRACE. Abidal should have been sent off, barca down to 10 and Chelsea 2-0 up with 60-70 mins to go?

Drogba, should stay on his feet more often.

Incident 3- Pique handball was like above as BLATENT a penalty you'll ever see. Anelka was going to take the ball around him and potentially score

Claim, turned down. Like Barcelona's in the first leg.

Incident 4- Yet again another penalty but one you sometimes get and sometimes don't. Most importantly though Eto'o MOVES HIS ARMS IN THE AIR and clearly blocks the direction of the ball. If his hands are down by his waist its not penalty but the fact is his arms were in the AIR.
I'd like to remind you the one against Chelsea when Belletti put his arms up in the air. against Juventus.

Never a penalty, ball was point blank. It's not a penalty according to the book.

It was a mistake that he wasn't sent off after 20 minuets. He can count himself lucky.

He should have stayed on the pitch. The red card for the foul on Anelka, was because Anelka tripped, from where the ref was it looked like he tripped him though.

Chelsea's reaction is what got them in to trouble.
Any team, or player that acts like Drogba and Ballack deserve serious punishment.
 
This shouldnt be about the ref. Its about the players acting like spoilt little kids throwing their rattles out of the pram.

The ref should be dealt with on his own.

I think its pathetic to make excuses about the game being unfair because the ref was wrong. At the end of the day the players have no excuse and should be punished.

Ref made a lot of mistakes...TOUGH LUCK!

Im sure the chelski fans would not be complaining if they had got a penalty for one of Drogbas dives.

No wonder we get loads of spoilt rich players in the face of the ref if they are allowed to get away with behaviour like this.
 
No wonder we get loads of spoilt rich players in the face of the ref if they are allowed to get away with behaviour like this.

Says a lot about the English Premier league, if players can act like this and get away with it.

Uefa didn't want to do much to Chelsea. The Ref shouldn't come in to it, Gustov harping on about how his team were "robbed".

Drogba, Ballack should have had really bad punishment, not a slap on the wrists.

Eyebrows just mouthed off, like managers do, give him a game ban, big deal.
 
The problem being:

1. The ref wasn't dealt with in any way except by the players (which, as pointed out, is unacceptable)
2. Extenuating circumstances should make the punishment more lenient.
 
Not for the first time, their behaviour was a disgrace and the bans should have stood.
I actually thought Bosingwa was the one who chased the ref down the pitch - didn't realise it was Ballack!

In which case, how on Earth did Ballack not get any kind of punishment for that? It's was by far and away the worst thing anybody on that pitch did that night.

Utterly ridiculous.
Indeed.
 
Last edited:
I disagree, there needs to be some understanding of the situation the players were in. This is taken into account in law, why not for sport?
Even if I were to accept you drawing parallels to the judicial system, I'm struggling to understand what you mean by 'taken into account in law', if you were to give specific examples maybe I could comment but otherwise I think that circumstances are only taken into account if it effects the intrinsic nature of the crime.

However, even the above rests on the assumption that the comparisons to civil law are applicable here, which I do not think in the slightest. The 'crime' after all, was just shouting abuse amongst other things at a referee for a sports match, something which is probably simulated and regularly exceeded up and down any alcohol-consuming country every Saturday night, the vast majority of which is not deemed sufficient enough to be reported by the police, let alone acted upon.

But similarly remember that what preceeded these acts are a man dressed in black blowing his whistle and telling eleven highly-paid athletes in blue that he thinks the decision should go to other eleven highly-paid athletes in yellow, those with the seven-figure salaries in blue disagreeing. If you were to bring up a comparison of the referee 'robbing' Chelski, as I have a feeling you might do, and claim that just as you physically attacking some hoodie running off with your Phillips plasma-screen is justified in the eyes of the law, the seven-figure salary brigade headed up by Didier is 'justified' in hassling the ref, then I really don't know whether to start with the disagreements.

The right to property may be enshrined in law and in the constitutions of most states across the globe, but I don't think the 'right' to a Champions League Final place is quite up there in that respect yet, but who knows it might be in the EU pipelines somewhere. The only way this assertion would have applied is if the Norwegian snooped around the Stamford Bridge dressing room at half-time and helped himself to Drogba's wallet and Bosingwa's eyebrow grooming kit, and the players were acting to get their property back. But unfortunately, as we know, they were not and were merely complaining that decisions did not go there their way and that they really, really, wanted to go to Rome that year. Summarily, the referee did not 'rob' anyone.

The 'law' of that pitch is FIFA/UEFA's and unless it interferes with civil law in some way (like crowds getting out of control, or tackles with 'intent' that a club may actually consider pressing charges on), that law is the only one in existence within those ninety minutes and no tenets of that overarching law should come into play unless that law itself does. The law states that the referee should not be verbally or physically encroached upon, nowhere does it add the postfix 'unless he's had a shocking game or you're really, really angry'. There is a principle involved, and yes it should be that way, the only way the referee diminishes that principle is if he physically or verbally abused the players himself, he does not diminish it through his 'performance' as the principle does not relate to that.

Even if a functional sense, with all other arguments aside, the players actions do not make sense. The referee can't make retrospective decisions (unless he's quick about it, like at the Confederations Cup against Egypt, eh?), and it's not like if you break a decibel limit in his ear-drums you automatically get the decision dropped, and if the law were changed to allow 'the situation' to bear on how the players were treated after, all this does is firstly show that abusing the referee is not an unadulterated law, and secondly that if you are going to have a go at him, you better make it timely and worth your while.

You can technically 'understand' why grown men cried that day, but in the 'what's-that-smell-oh-it's-that-*****-dog-again' sense, not the 'brave-freedom-fighters-overcoming-tyranny' kind of way; you know why one thing led to another, but that doesn't diminish the crime.
 
Last edited:
The problem being:

1. The ref wasn't dealt with in any way except by the players (which, as pointed out, is unacceptable)
2. Extenuating circumstances should make the punishment more lenient.

Yes, it is unacceptable.

But you can't set a precedent for this, otherwise we're going to get players verbally and (in the case of Ballack) following them around the pitch hurling abuse.

The referee should have been punished, but with a separate tribunal.
 
Funny how Chelsea fans seem to forget the goal that was wrongly disallowed in the first leg. Both teams suffered from poor decisions throughout both legs but nothing warranted the behaviour of Drogba and Bosingwa, its a farce that to appeal seems to be an automatic reduction. Wasn't Ballack pretty lucky to not be fined / banned too?

Yeap this.

Ballack's behaviour was akin to Keown's on RvN a few years back, but this time right at the ref. I still don't know how he's avoided any punishment whatsoever.
 
Can't beleive this

Drogba should have been banned for far more than 3 matches, and now he gets it reduced? What a disgrace!

I couldn't beleive Ballack wasn't punished in the first place, but now they do this? Jeez
 
Back
Top Bottom