For any lorry drivers (e.g. R420LA6X2/4MNA)

He quit yesterday!

I was only in a meeting with him a couple of weeks back and he was talking about how you're all going to be great again :D

I had to stifle my giggling :p

Edit: Linky

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6WbPZs5BtBg

Oh I wouldnt of known that, I went and got my old job back at Interlink last August, after they screwed me over with that trouble shooting job I ****** them off.
Problem is with these people is they just dont know what the customer wants, because they never have never dealt with them, they dont know how to make things better at the delivery end, because they have never done it, and a million and one other reasons.
 
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I dont think you would have got overtaken by a Tesco lorry, they are restricted to an even more ludicrous speed that other lorries if i remember rightly, something like 52mph and 35 mph on a dual carriage way and A road respectively.

Eddie Stobart are doing more & more work for tesco's these days - were not restricted to 52MPH, we can go way faster - 56MPH! :cool::rolleyes::D
 
Eddie Stobart are doing more & more work for tesco's these days - were not restricted to 52MPH, we can go way faster - 56MPH! :cool::rolleyes::D
Are Eddie Stobart drivers "incentivised" to stick to a fairly strict schedule that doesn't make allowances for temporary speed limits, roadworks or other hold-ups?

Do you (as a commercial lorry driver) have any idea why some commercial lorry drivers might apparently deliberately exceed the temporary speed limit in bad weather?

For what it is worth, I do know what speed I was doing (based on a Sat-Nav unit); I did know what the (temporary) speed limit was, it was typically either 40 or 50 and I also know that in at least one case, a lorry which had hurtled up to and past me slowed down to the limit when we reached some average speed-limit cameras, making me suspect that he knew where he was likely to be detected.

I am just curious as to whether employers impose inflexible schedules on their drivers; I wasn't particularly bothered, just puzzled.
 
Are Eddie Stobart drivers "incentivised" to stick to a fairly strict schedule that doesn't make allowances for temporary speed limits, roadworks or other hold-ups?

Do you (as a commercial lorry driver) have any idea why some commercial lorry drivers might apparently deliberately exceed the temporary speed limit in bad weather?

For what it is worth, I do know what speed I was doing (based on a Sat-Nav unit); I did know what the (temporary) speed limit was, it was typically either 40 or 50 and I also know that in at least one case, a lorry which had hurtled up to and past me slowed down to the limit when we reached some average speed-limit cameras, making me suspect that he knew where he was likely to be detected.

I am just curious as to whether employers impose inflexible schedules on their drivers; I wasn't particularly bothered, just puzzled.

Stobart drivers are in no way incentivised to speed full stop.

Yes, we have tight delivery schedules to try to meet, that said, if were running late we simply inform our "Traffic Planner" so he/she is aware of the delay and can re-plan the vehicles run & the "Customer Services Dept" can contact the customer with either a revised e.t.a. or, re-book the delivery for another time and/or date.


Some other hauliers may well trying to meet "delivery windows" i.e. if the load gets there late, the haulier will get a financial penalty or, the load may be refused altogether, which itself causes further problems as the truck can't then go and get its next load! For whatever reason, the load may be late and the driver is trying to make up time. I'm not saying this makes speeding right, far from it, more trying to give you a possible explanation as to why they may feel the need for speed!

As far as bad weather is concerned, then its down to the stupidity of the driver! - A fully freighted artic takes a long time to stop in the wet, many drivers simply seem to disregard this although I do conceed that what may well seem bad weather / spray etc conditions to a car / van or bike is not much of an issue to a truck simply because you are sitting literally above the majority of the spray and have a far better view ahead than others around you.

Yes, many people percieve HGV's to be travelling faster in temporary limits, that said, in my limited experience of SAT-NAV's & trucks, the speed given on the GPS is generally slower than the speed registered on the calibrated tachograph, especially with digital tachographs for some reason.

I Say limited with regard to SAT-NAV's as I personally don't own one as I feel the take a lot away from driving (like remembering routes and learning to use a map!) but, if I get a truck that has one fitted, I usually try it even if its to see what absurd route it suggests for my 44tonner - even the ones designed for HGV's are far from perfect, you hear of foreign HGV's getting stuck in small villages and narrow bends simply because Pedro the Spaniard could not be arsed to look at a map and appreciate that in actual fact his truck should not be anywhere near that given bottleneck, anyway, thats quite another thread! ;)

It must be so tedious being limited to a speed so low like that, guess it feels quite slow when you're sitting high up aswell?

The sence of speed is totally different in a vehicle the size & weight of a six axle artic, and tbh, you notice very little perception of speed difference between 50 & 56 MPH. believe me, 50 - 56MPH is plenty fast enough with upto 44tons behind you on a trailer thats given to jack-knife under panic braking (especially on a bend in the wet) and thats assuming you have space to stop......

Its something you have to experience to fully appreciate imo.
 
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As far as bad weather is concerned, then its down to the stupidity of the driver! - A fully freighted artic takes a long time to stop in the wet, many drivers simply seem to disregard this although I do conceed that what may well seem bad weather / spray etc conditions to a car / van or bike is not much of an issue to a truck simply because you are sitting literally above the majority of the spray and have a far better view ahead than others around you.

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Wouldnt you agree tho, some wagon drivers do drive inappropriately in the wet, they bully people, or pull out without looking etc etc, these are the ones that cause the big sodding accidents, a long motorway closure is now a daily occurance, and pretty much always involves a wagon:(
 
Wouldnt you agree tho, some wagon drivers do drive inappropriately in the wet, they bully people, or pull out without looking etc etc, these are the ones that cause the big sodding accidents, a long motorway closure is now a daily occurance, and pretty much always involves a wagon:(

Yes, some truck drivers are complete arses, no question of that.

However, the vast vast majority are responsible and drive to a lot higher standard than the average car / van driver in my view.

As for long motorway closures pretty much always involving a wagon I'm afraid your wrong. The trouble is HGV's by definition are large vehicles and any incident involving one , be it the drivers fault or not, stands out like a sore thumb, often a simple thing such as a tyre blow out can result in huge delays....

If HGV drivers really drove the way people percieve they do then the road death statistics would reflect this, which they don't.

An HGV is a lethal weapon in anything other than competent hands, almost as lethal as car drivers with little or no clue as to the road space required by one, never mind the huge blind spots. Often car drivers put themselves in positions of incredible danger around HGV's and then wonder why they get "bullied out of the way"

Again, something that you really can't comprehend until you have been in one and had to deal with Joe public and his "brain in neutral, car in gear" driving style.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17848500 - LGV / HGV Blind Spot info.
 
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I Say limited with regard to SAT-NAV's as I personally don't own one as I feel the take a lot away from driving (like remembering routes and learning to use a map!) but, if I get a truck that has one fitted, I usually try it even if its to see what absurd route it suggests for my 44tonner - even the ones designed for HGV's are far from perfect, you hear of foreign HGV's getting stuck in small villages and narrow bends simply because Pedro the Spaniard could not be arsed to look at a map and appreciate that in actual fact his truck should not be anywhere near that given bottleneck, anyway, thats quite another thread! ;)


I don't suppose you could point me in the direction:D of one of these sat nav's for trucks? My father in law has recently gone back to arctic driving and was looking for one
 
I don't suppose you could point me in the direction:D of one of these sat nav's for trucks? My father in law has recently gone back to arctic driving and was looking for one

Sure.
Proline S2000 TRUCKMATE & Proline S2000 TRUCKMATE Euro £339.99

http://shop.snooperdirect.com/product1110186.html
Snooper S7000 Truckmate EU with 7" LCD Display,Bluetooth,TMC & TV
SNOOPER PRICE: £429.99
http://shop.snooperdirect.com/product1300186.html

Two of the best, both are excellent and I have used them with relative ease, that said, I still found myself checking an A-Z on one drop as the Truckmate was telling me to drive into a river!

Great pieces of kit but not without flaws even at that price range - a good example is this -
•12V Cigarette lighter supply/charger
Most trucks run @ 24V - a bit of a silly omission there! - not all trucks have 12V inverters.

The following restrictions are recognised to ensure a drivable route is calculated.

Physical Restrictions

Height
Weight
Weight per Axle
Width Restriction
Length restriction

Legal Restrictions

Trucks not allowed
No left turn for trucks
No right turn for trucks
No U-turn for trucks
Trailer forbidden
Truck specific speed limits

Hazardous Materials Restrictions

All trucks with hazardous goods forbidden
All trucks with inflammable goods forbidden
All trucks with natural goods that can be harmful for the water forbidden

Truck specific Warning Information

Steep hill downwards ahead
Steep hill upwards ahead
Lateral wind
Risk of grounding
Sharp curve(s)

Also takes in to account date and time related restrictions.

£300+ buys one hell of a collection of A-Z's mind you..... ;)
 
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Sure.
Proline S2000 TRUCKMATE & Proline S2000 TRUCKMATE Euro £339.99

http://shop.snooperdirect.com/product1110186.html
Snooper S7000 Truckmate EU with 7" LCD Display,Bluetooth,TMC & TV
SNOOPER PRICE: £429.99
http://shop.snooperdirect.com/product1300186.html

Two of the best, both are excellent and I have used them with relative ease, that said, I still found myself checking an A-Z on one drop as the Truckmate was telling me to drive into a river!

Great pieces of kit but not without flaws even at that price range - a good example is this -

Most trucks run @ 24V - a bit of a silly omission there! - not all trucks have 12V inverters.



£300+ buys one hell of a collection of A-Z's mind you..... ;)


Cheers much appreciated
 
Trucks are virtually unaffected by rain (wind is another matter) so when the Turbo Nutter car drivers have to slow down in heavy rain its...

Payback time

Good ennit

;-)
 
All joking aside, One thing I will say to you car drivers here is that...

If it's raining ( even light rain) and you don't have your Headlights on then you don't exist

Seriously.. Your invisible.

Be safe.... Be Seen
 
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