Will You Buy Windows 7???

I consider myself to be one of the few users here who has a mass of programs installed and intricately configured and well organised yet it would never take me more than a night to reinstall them all and configure it back to how it was prior to clean installing.

I used logic in this regard by backing up key program config files and directories to a 2nd disk and synctoy those backups weekly so that when a reinstall is done I just install the apps and copy the directories over thus all my customisations and settings are restored instantly for all applications.

If it's taking you 3 days then there's an area of your daily computing you need to advance!

Not sure if you read my post correctly or not? However, you will notice that I said I use Acronis TI for making full images and I carry out backup tasks obsessively. In fact with TI one can now mount that image as a virtual drive and move ones files apps data etc. onto the new system. However, that is the easy bit. One still has to install the programmes again and then configure them. Just reinstalling MS Office and downloading all the updates plus setting up all my various email accounts takes hours in itself so unless your nights are longer than mine I'm not sure how you achieve such a feat. When I said three days what I really meant was three evenings after coming home from the office
 
We're really going off at a tangent here. Reinstalling programs is something you do with every OS reinstall and nothing to do with Windows 7.
 
I still think there's a large 'devil's advocate' element in your comments. You're determined to be different

Well who wants to be a sheep and be part of a flock, certainly not me. That's not the reason I say that I don't find W7 a worthwhile investment though. I say it because my experience has taught me that it is not sufficiently different or better than Vista to warrant either the expense or the hassle of upgrading.
 
3 days to reinstall things? More like 3 hours if you do things intelligently, backing up folders like Application Data. I've never been satisfied with an upgrade install of Windows anyway - always ended up starting afresh.

He has a point here. It takes me weeks to get my PC to how I like it after a fresh install. Just Windows updates, Office 2007 and updates, and Visual Studio 2008 plus updates takes an evening.
 
He has a point here. It takes me weeks to get my PC to how I like it after a fresh install. Just Windows updates, Office 2007 and updates, and Visual Studio 2008 plus updates takes an evening.

Visual Studio I have no experience with. But there's lots of things you can do to make these processes quicker - installing from a slipstreamed disc with SPs built in, keeping the installers for Office SPs, drivers, etc, timing things so you're downloading one thing whilst installing others.

I have a folder full of service packs, driver updates, patches, installers, etc., because downloading them all again is so tedious.

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Well who wants to be a sheep and be part of a flock, certainly not me.

I guess it depends on your motivations. If you bought 7 purely because people on a forum told you you needed to - well, yes, that wouldn't be too clever.

But you can't assume that everyone's buying it because of a flock mentality. And purposely going against the flow just to be different is just as stupid as being a sheep.
 
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And purposely going against the flow just to be different is just as stupid as being a sheep

That's not the reason I say that I don't find W7 a worthwhile investment though. I say it because my experience has taught me that it is not sufficiently different or better than Vista to warrant either the expense or the hassle of upgrading
 
Comes back to the 'is it worth the money?' question. I think we've reached the point where we should agree to disagree. Everybody values things differently and by different criteria :)
 
I have a folder full of service packs, driver updates, patches, installers, etc., because downloading them all again is so tedious.

Whilst I appreciate you're not doing this every night this initself is a job of some tedium.

The next time I do a fresh install I will take some of my flexi-time and have the house to myself for the day and get on with it without interruptions, and rightly or wrongly I too spend weeks fine tuning my system after a clean install. This is one reason why I could never get my head around multi-partitions. I can see why people do it but one still has to install all the progs again if you do a clean install of your OS ever so often so you might as well stick with a single volume.
 
This is one reason why I could never get my head around multi-partitions. I can see why people do it but one still has to install all the progs again if you do a clean install of your OS ever so often so you might as well stick with a single volume.

Not all of them :) Some things like MS Office and other more complex programs need to be reinstalled. But with lots of other programs - media players, games, browsers, other standalone programs - you can just copy your old links over and they work fine.
 
Not all of them :) Some things like MS Office and other more complex programs need to be reinstalled. But with lots of other programs - media players, games, browsers, other standalone programs - you can just copy your old links over and they work fine.

Well I wouldn't know what to do with a game if you gave me one. Depends on the individual but I find that most of my progs need to be installed again as they are in many ways integrated into Windows.

It's a job they should give as community service, people would soon stop committing crimes. :D
 
Whilst I appreciate you're not doing this every night this initself is a job of some tedium.

The next time I do a fresh install I will take some of my flexi-time and have the house to myself for the day and get on with it without interruptions, and rightly or wrongly I too spend weeks fine tuning my system after a clean install. This is one reason why I could never get my head around multi-partitions. I can see why people do it but one still has to install all the progs again if you do a clean install of your OS ever so often so you might as well stick with a single volume.

The main advantage of having partitions in that instance is that you're not having to move huge amounts of data off the drive, then back on to it. I keep my C: partition just for Windows and installed applications, games are on another partition, my personal stuff is on another partition, my music/media is on a separate drive. If I need to install Windows, I don't need to worry about copying everything back over again, because it'll be right there.
 
I have been running XP for years now and i think it`s great.
I then bought a laptop with Vista loaded on it, it`s ok looks prity but way over bloated and does some strange things !!!

Windows 7 will be the first operating system i have bought in a long time and i am buying this on what i have read so all on trust, and i am buying this for my games machine so i do hope it`s a big improvement over XP as i said all on trust but there is way too many people saying vastly brtter then Vista....
 
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3 days to reinstall things? More like 3 hours if you do things intelligently, backing up folders like Application Data. I've never been satisfied with an upgrade install of Windows anyway - always ended up starting afresh.
He has a point here. It takes me weeks to get my PC to how I like it after a fresh install. Just Windows updates, Office 2007 and updates, and Visual Studio 2008 plus updates takes an evening.

I agree. That's insane not having an upgrade path. The EU needs a kick up the arse.

3 days is about right for the installs. I have hundreds of programs.

And yep, it HAS taken weeks to get backup to speed after my system crashed and I had to rebuild it.

What a nightmare.

3 hours. Whatever. Release a video showing how you do that. I am sure you will get some buyers.

Have there been any ways round this in the past when Microsoft has released a release Candidate?
 
I'm not quite sure why people want to "upgrade" from an operating system that is in it's release candidate state to the release code.

I think some peoples minds have slightly drifted with regards to the whole "testing" aspect of Windows 7.
 
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I've just ordered it for £44.99, I'll probably get an Enterprise copy from work before it ships, but it seemed like too good a deal to pass up. Probably flog it for £100 if I dont need it.
 
I'm not quite sure why people want to "upgrade" from an operating system that is in it's release candidate state to the release code.

I think peoples minds have slightly drifted with regards to the whole "testing" aspect of Windows 7.

Lets get with the real world here.

People test by using it.

They are not Micorosofts employees, so any testing they do is on stuff that they actually want to get done.

It would be bizarre if you installed it, and DIDN'T want to upgrade.

Its only techy types who talk about stuff like 'Clean Installs'. Normal people just expect to upgrade in an hour with a couple of clicks. Nip out for lunch, and come back with everything set to go.
 
Lets get with the real world here.

People test by using it.

They are not Micorosofts employees, so any testing they do is on stuff that they actually want to get done.

It would be bizarre if you installed it, and DIDN'T want to upgrade.

I'm sorry but it's the complete opposite. You are using a pre-release operating system and everyone is all too fully aware of it before downloading and installing the operating system. Windows 7 in it's current state is for testing purposes. If people are treating it as an operating system that has been released and using it like it's release code, then quite frankly that's up to them. However, to then go and complain that you can't do an upgrade from the release candidate to release code, then their minds have indeed drifted and are completely ignoring the whole testing aspect of Windows 7.

Its only techy types who talk about stuff like 'Clean Installs'. Normal people just expect to upgrade in an hour with a couple of clicks. Nip out for lunch, and come back with everything set to go.

I'm guessing when you're referring to normal people you mean the non-technical minded. If that is the case, then I'll expect that they aren't even aware of a new operating system coming out never mind that you can actually use it. Even if they're aware of Windows 7 and know that they have the chance to test it, I'll doubt they would want to test it out since it's of no interest to them.
 
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