Here are some pics of my new car (bends over awaiting roasting for buying new Golf)

LupoLover · 23 Jul 2009 at 14:34

jamief said:
I'd be worried about using a cheap one and reprogramming the sector for the airbag instead of for the coming home lights!

I only know of 1 of my mates with a real one. None of us have had a problem. In fact im sure thousands use cheap ebay copies everyday and they work fine

mjt · 23 Jul 2009 at 14:40

vagcom is a 'fake' anyway, as dealers use their own software

jamief · 23 Jul 2009 at 14:45

How much are the "fake" ones?

paradigm · 23 Jul 2009 at 14:46

Tute said:
I could probably count them on both hands, but then again why would I buy a car I don't like the look of?

In the same vein, why would you buy a car you do like the look of, but is boring to drive, and built like ass?

LupoLover · 23 Jul 2009 at 14:48

jamief said:
How much are the "fake" ones?

Ebay and search

£10 ish I think (Dont have ebay at work)

Tute · 23 Jul 2009 at 14:50

paradigm said:
In the same vein, why would you buy a car you do like the look of, but is boring to drive, and built like ass?

I wouldn't. I would test drive thoroughly any car I was looking to get, and it's direct competitors, read reviews, and then make a decision on that.

Are you trying to say that the Golf "is boring to drive, and built like ass"?

Participant · 23 Jul 2009 at 14:58

[TW]Fox;14534313 said:
He's already mentioned low tax and fuel economy as a reason for his decision.

Not quite. It's an added bonus but did not factor into the purchasing decision as a prime reason for purchasing the car. I think you need to try and understand the difference between 'reason' and 'enhancing factor'.

In any case the argument about 'if you spend over £xk on a car, the running and associated costs aren't important', which is essentially what you and your ilk frequently regurgitate, is quite severely floored. For example, I could have bought a 2L Ford that's equally as rapid but has higher fuel consumption, insurance and tax for the same amount of money. In that instance then the latter could become a reason for a purchase.

It's just not as simple as 'why do you care about running costs when you've spent so much?'. By extension you might as well say that someone that buys a car for £170k, shouldn't give two hoots if their car tax plus insurance is 10 times more expensive, even if they can get a similar car with a third of the running costs. Some people choose the car they want (especially if they've made an outright purchase) and then prefer not to have to chuck large amounts of money at it each month. It's not (or shouldn't be) hard to understand.

jamief · 23 Jul 2009 at 15:05

LupoLover said:
Ebay and search £10 ish I think (Dont have ebay at work)

Looks like they'll only work on older versions of the VAG firmware

Fido McNasty · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:15

Thats a definate nail in the coffin for the scrappage scheme. Good grief, they convinced you to scrap what looks to have been a perfectly good car. Frugal on fuel, no show winner but no doubt good to drive, does all it probably said on the tin and had a huge life left in it. Thats the key for me, had a huge life still in it, now not to be lived/driven. I understand the new car I guess, but the car scrappage scheme completely fails on it's logic against the Polo. Sure it's worth more to you, scrapped under the scheme and in this deal. But the fundamentals are that the car was not scrap material in the normal sense, and thats what bothers me. Not you, just the governments crackpot way of doing things.

A twenty or thrity year car maybe. But the deal there is pure governmental hypocrisy.

Sin_Chase · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:18

iaind said:
Coming home airbags - exactly what cars need!

You mean, the wife?

Participant · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:19

Fido McNasty said:
Thats a definate nail in the coffin for the scrappage scheme. Good grief, they convinced you to scrap what looks to have been a perfectly good car. Frugal on fuel, no show winner but no doubt good to drive, does all it probably said on the tin and had a huge life left in it. Thats the key for me, had a huge life still in it, now not to be lived/driven. I understand the new car I guess, but the car scrappage scheme completely fails on it's logic against the Polo. Sure it's worth more to you, scrapped under the scheme and in this deal. But the fundamentals are that the car was not scrap material in the normal sense, and thats what bothers me. Not you, just the governments crackpot way of doing things.

I agree but one has to take advantage of these government donations when they crop up. I pay enough tax.

The other amusing thing is that the reduced CO2 emissions from the new car will probably be offset to some or all extent by the energy required to scrap the car i.e. transportation, some big diesel crane, the crusher, and the actual process of turning it into usable metal again.

However my wallet is more important than all of the above so I gratefully accepted the £2k.

Fido McNasty · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:28

Robbie G said:
I agree but one has to take advantage of these government donations when they crop up. I pay enough tax.

The other amusing thing is that the reduced CO2 emissions from the new car will probably be offset to some or all extent by the energy required to scrap the car i.e. transportation, some big diesel crane, the crusher, and the actual process of turning it into usable metal again.

Sure. I wasn't digging on you at all, you made a fairly good decision on a NEW car. The gvmt simply have made a deal too irresistable to be ignored when in fact it is now widely known that it doesn't truly address the problems it was aimed at. Such as the crunch and the environment. I wouldn't kid myself in any way that this was an environmental call, purely financial. Cue another credit brokers dream.

oneale90 · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:34

Moeks said:
oneale90: Would you mind either taking the time to read what you have actually written before you post it, or at least allow Word to have a go at it, your lack of grammar makes me wince.

Unfortunately my phone doesn't have word.

wez130 · 23 Jul 2009 at 19:58

Tute said:
Admittedly I think more than 90% of Audi drivers are cocks!

Wez, not you.

lol thanks, i try not to be.

Moeks said:
You only have to spend 10 minutes or so on one of our motorways and I'd be surprised if there wasn't someone in an Audi A4 (usually a 2 litre diesel I might add) trying to enter your exhaust pipe, no matter how fast you are going ...strange phenomenon really. Still, I suppose it's better than looking at a Vectra in your rear view mirror.

oneale90: Would you mind either taking the time to read what you have actually written before you post it, or at least allow Word to have a go at it, your lack of grammar makes me wince.

I don't really notice, but to be an advocate for Audi drivers, (or maybe an exception), i never tailgate, i hate tailgating, it's clearly unsafe and wherever possible i always leave a gap between myself and the car in front.

Stolly · 23 Jul 2009 at 20:18

Nice car, good choice. Whats money for if its not for buying what you want occasionally. Not every choice has to be entirely financial.

Coco · 23 Jul 2009 at 20:21

Robbie G - did you ever expect to get six pages of comments for your Golf! You must do a follow up report in a thousand miles or so.

Barks · 23 Jul 2009 at 20:36

PiKe said:
Motors Rules:

1) Never post on OcUK stating you've bought a car from Carcraft.
2) Never post on OcUK stating you've bought a brand new car from a dealer.

The exception being if you're loaded and are buying anything £50k+.

I don't remember anyone having a go at the lad who bought the GTR brand new. Yet by the logic in here he is still in the wrong because he could have bought a second hand Lamborghini or something.

Vigoro · 23 Jul 2009 at 20:41

scott212 said:
I don't remember anyone having a go at the lad who bought the GTR brand new.

Are you seriously comparing that to a Golf?

Janesy B · 23 Jul 2009 at 20:47

scott212 said:
The exception being if you're loaded and are buying anything £50k+.

I don't remember anyone having a go at the lad who bought the GTR brand new. Yet by the logic in here he is still in the wrong because he could have bought a second hand Lamborghini or something.

Because the point of buying new is to get something nice. The people who get slated are normally people who spaff thousands up the wall for a car that is rubbish and isn't much of an upgrade to what they already have. Usually on finance too.

Lots of people have their stupid hat on today.

Barks · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:20

Janesy B said:
Because the point of buying new is to get something nice. The people who get slated are normally people who spaff thousands up the wall for a car that is rubbish and isn't much of an upgrade to what they already have. Usually on finance too.

Lots of people have their stupid hat on today.

How does a 1.4 TSI GT Golf fit in that bracket though?

If somebody wants to spend £17k on a car that is spacious, reliable, relatively quick, cheap to run, economical, comfortable, and one that holds it's value then a Golf ticks every box. Not forgetting it's a Golf which is certainly perceived as an up-market hatch.

Performance lacking. Perhaps but 160BHP, 240Nm, 44MPG and 0-62 in 7.7 seconds is more than enough for most people and I doubt anyone can drive one and honestly try and claim the performance is dreadful. In fact that's a fairly nice balance of performance and economy.

Half of my brain is trying to convince me that I'd rather have that than a second hand GTI.