Here are some pics of my new car (bends over awaiting roasting for buying new Golf)

wez130 · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:23

scott212 said:
How does a 1.4 TSI GT Golf fit in that bracket though?

If somebody wants to spend £17k on a car that is spacious, reliable, relatively quick, cheap to run, economical, comfortable, and one that holds it's value then a Golf ticks every box. Not forgetting it's a Golf which is certainly perceived as an up-market hatch.

Performance lacking. Perhaps but 160BHP, 240Nm, 44MPG and 0-62 in 7.7 seconds is more than enough for most people and I doubt anyone can drive one and honestly try and claim the performance is dreadful.

either you are contradicting yourself or not making yourself understood properly, in one post you are claiming that you should only buy new if it's a £50k + car, then in the next you are (correctly) defending OP's decision on buying his Golf.

And 7.7 - 62 isn't to be sniffed at either, it's by no means slow., not superfast but then what else is there in a premium market that offers that performance for £17k?

Janesy B · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:26

LOL scott212

RJC · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:29

Very nice, happy motoring

Hawk Tuah · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:36

Hmm. Whilst I appreciate the engineering of Golfs, they are just so bland.

Barks · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:38

wez130 said:
either you are contradicting yourself or not making yourself understood properly, in one post you are claiming that you should only buy new if it's a £50k + car, then in the next you are (correctly) defending OP's decision on buying his Golf.

No I was being sarcastic in pointing out that the only time you don't get mocked on here for buying a brand new car is if it's an expensive one.

Even someone who buys an E90 335i will be told they're a muppet who should have bought an E46 M3.

Janesy B · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:47

When did that happen?

You seem to ramble on but at the end of it you've gotten nowhere and no one knows what you're on about.

Hxc · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:50

scott212 said:
I don't remember anyone having a go at the lad who bought the GTR brand new.

This is a really dumb statement. Comparing a 50k super saloon with a 17k Golf is just...stupid. There's nothing else out there that offers what the GTR, even on the second hand market.

Barks · 23 Jul 2009 at 21:57

Hxc said:
This is a really dumb statement. Comparing a 50k super saloon with a 17k Golf is just...stupid. There's nothing else out there that offers what the GTR, even on the second hand market.

I agree with what you're saying about the GTR but I wasn't comparing the cars merely the fact it's frowned upon to buy cars brand new.

Anyway lets not get carried away with this argument, it has been done to death.

Janesy B said:
When did that happen?

You seem to ramble on but at the end of it you've gotten nowhere and no one knows what you're on about.

Oh well, I try.

Morba · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:01

scott212 said:
No I was being sarcastic in pointing out that the only time you don't get mocked on here for buying a brand new car is if it's an expensive one.

Even someone who buys an E90 335i will be told they're a muppet who should have bought an E46 M3.

you know, you do nothing to make people think of you being a bit less stupid.

Morba · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:01

scott212 said:
I agree with what you're saying about the GTR but I wasn't comparing the cars merely the fact it's frowned upon to buy cars brand new.

Anyway lets not get carried away with this argument, it has been done to death.

Oh well, I try.

no, its frowned upon when the reason for buying is economy and low tax....
even YOU should be able to see why this is stupid reasoning.

Muffin` · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:04

OMG

It's a Golf thread and TommyB's posting about GTR's, awsome.

Barks · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:09

Morba said:
no, its frowned upon when the reason for buying is economy and low tax....
even YOU should be able to see why this is stupid reasoning.

You lot think of everything in an almost scientific sense, purchasing decisions are not always driven in such a way.

I wouldn't buy an expenive item of clothing second hand, a mobile phone second hand, a PC second hand. To some people it's the same with cars.

If you think I'm stupid then fair enough.

Muffin` said:
OMG

It's a Golf thread and TommyB's posting about GTR's, awsome.

Hold on are you having a go at me for using an example to back up my point?

That comment would be slightly less retarded if I had posted a picture of a GTR in my first reply to this thread and focused solely on that.

Hawk Tuah · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:10

Morba said:
no, its frowned upon when the reason for buying is economy and low tax....
even YOU should be able to see why this is stupid reasoning.

No - the OP said that the reason for buying new was that 2nd hand golfs are holding their value really well and he didn't like the previous model as much.

Choosing that engine was because of tax and economy.

Morba · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:11

scott212 said:
You lot think of everything in an almost scientific sense, purchasing decisions are not always driven in such a way.

I wouldn't buy an expenive item of clothing second hand, a mobile phone second hand, a PC second hand. How is a car different?

If you think I'm stupid then fair enough.

You are not really comparing clothing new to a car, are you?
Please tell me you arent.

Scientific? No, mathmatical.

You do not spend £17k to save a few hundred £ a year. Simple.

OllyM · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:13

scott212 said:
You lot think of everything in an almost scientific sense, purchasing decisions are not always driven in such a way.

I wouldn't buy an expenive item of clothing second hand, a mobile phone second hand, a PC second hand. To some people it's the same with cars.

If you think I'm stupid then fair enough.

Yes, but clothing doesn't cost £17,000

Barks · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:16

Morba said:
You are not really comparing clothing new to a car, are you?
Please tell me you arent.

Scientific? No, mathmatical.

You do not spend £17k to save a few hundred £ a year. Simple.

What is wrong with the simple fact that if you've got a tidy income and have a budget of £17k and the Golf ticks all the boxes then that will be your purchase. Why bother driving a used car which also incurs all sorts of reliability issues when you can have a brand new one that does everything you wanted anyway? Most people buying brand new Golfs are happy to pay a premium for having a brand new one and because it's a Golf.

I can't be bothered to explain this anymore. You're all inferring that people who buy brand new cars are stupid. In that case all the thousands of consumers who purchase cars brand new every year must be stupid, and I doubt they are stupid if they're in jobs which pay them the money enabling them to buy the cars in the first place.

OllyM said:
Yes, but clothing doesn't cost £17,000

It's all relative to your income though. Buying a £17k brand new Golf as a student would be foolish, buying one as someone on a high paid wage would wants a decent enough car is not. In the same way, a homeless man would be an idiot to pay £50 for a jumper when they coud get a used one from a charity shop for a couple of quid.

Janesy B · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:26

A used car equals reliability problems? Thats a new one to me. Gosh I must be really lucky to have done over 20k miles in cars that cost less than £1k and not broken down once.

In fact new cars can be a pain and sometimes dealers don't want to help you.

Yet again it's Scott/Tommy rambling on about nothing.

No I wouldn buy a £1 jumper from a charity shop because I doubt I could go there and find exactly what I want whereas with used cars you have that little bonus. It's called autotrader/pistonheads etc. I don't see usedjumperfinder.com anywhere.

wez130 · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:40

Janesy B said:
I don't see usedjumperfinder.com anywhere.

gap in the market, go exploit it

Morba · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:41

scott212 said:
What is wrong with the simple fact that if you've got a tidy income and have a budget of £17k and the Golf ticks all the boxes then that will be your purchase. Why bother driving a used car which also incurs all sorts of reliability issues when you can have a brand new one that does everything you wanted anyway? Most people buying brand new Golfs are happy to pay a premium for having a brand new one and because it's a Golf.

I can't be bothered to explain this anymore. You're all inferring that people who buy brand new cars are stupid. In that case all the thousands of consumers who purchase cars brand new every year must be stupid, and I doubt they are stupid if they're in jobs which pay them the money enabling them to buy the cars in the first place.

2nd hand cars = reliability issues?
my 330d is 130k miles old and into its 8th year of its life. other than the normal things it has so far been great.
MOT failed yesterday on: Lights and fouling of front wheel when on full lock. too 45 mins to sort and out it went with a new MOT.
Hardly a reliability issue.

Also, you think that new cars have no problems? you would be wrong!

All new car buyers are stupid? No. You are being stupid with that statement :]
You make it seem like the majority of cars are bought cash when new, this is NOT the case.

Morba · 23 Jul 2009 at 22:42

wez130 said:
gap in the market, go exploit it

gap don't sell second hand clothes

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