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I actually put it down because the way I was running I knew another club was coming.

Don't take this as having a pop at you.

In general I don't think its a good idea to view it like that, bit of a gamblers fallacy to start talking about runs of luck etc... Each time the cards are dealt it is an independent event, so to modify your play (start tightening up getting nitty/defensive etc..) based upon say having a bad beat previously or running bad in a session is probably going to be a bit -ve.
 
Sorry, all knowing god of poker, I forgot you're right on every count and know everything about me right :)
I don't know everything about you and I'm far from the all knowing God of poker, but to say that beating high stakes is easier than beating low stakes because there aren't as many bad players making stupid decisions against you is ridiculous.

Poker is a zero-sum game which means we only make money when our opponent makes a mistake against us. A bad player makes more mistakes which means we make more money from him. Why on earth would we want to give up our edge on the opposition?

Re: folding AA on an Axx flop, I was faced with the horror flop of Ac 9c 8c the other day but I bet it, guy puts in a decent raise and I actually put it down because the way I was running I knew another club was coming. Turns out he actually flopped the nut flush, and although I wasn't drawing dead I still needed to re-draw. When you look at it, it's a stupid fold but sometimes instinct takes over...
Ac9c8c isn't a horror flop. We still have top three of a kind. The reason we never (or almost never) fold a hand like this one is because in the absolute worst case scenario we're still 30% to win the pot which occasionally is enough to make it profitable (pot odds when you call the all in, et cetera). Not to mention the fact our opponent could be shoving all in with hands like 99,88, or a pair of aces with a lone club - all of which are hands we crush.

Remember we don't play against our villain's hand, we play against the entire range of his holdings.

Don't take this as having a pop at you.

In general I don't think its a good idea to view it like that, bit of a gamblers fallacy to start talking about runs of luck etc... Each time the cards are dealt it is an independent event, so to modify your play (start tightening up getting nitty/defensive etc..) based upon say having a bad beat previously or running bad in a session is probably going to be a bit -ve.
He was tilting. It happens to all of us :)
 
He was tilting. It happens to all of us :)

Meh, it was only a small crappy little tournament. I'm taking a break for a while anyway as I'm sick to death of the game.

With regards to my "all knowing god of poker" comment, it was a little rash and I'll apologise for it. I've had a rather tough week and it's just got worse so I'm not in the best of moods at the minute. Sorry to take it out on you :p
 
I should have been more specific actually and qualify my dislike of unlimited rebuys (or rebuys over half the tournament duration as was the case this time.) My dislike is bourne from having played with people with vastly different bankrolls.

Not one of my home games, but an extreme example was a club I used to frequent. It was advertised as a £5 rebuy tournament. Decent 20 minute blind levels with unlimited rebuys up to the first break (about an hour and twenty minutes if memory serves me correctly). Now some guys used to turn up with £300 to gamble on the tournament. They were used to playing at higher levels and could afford to gamble £300 and just fancied a punt. It ruined it for everyone else who did not have the same bankroll because:

a) They were gambling and would suck out occassionally. All-Ins blind every hand sometimes.
b) There were so many damn chips in play that if you hadn't accumulated some of theirs you'd not stand a chance in the latter stages.

Now in the long run, sure a good player will overcome this because they get their money in good, but it really is no fun watching/playing push/fold poker where you lose say £20 99 times and then win £2,500 on the 100th tournament. Sure you're a winning player overall but it is soul destroying to play, especially at a live venue you only frequent once a week. It'd be two years of poor poker before you see a +ve ROI !! These guys weren't tools. Indeed there were some very good card players, but their attitude to a low stakes game made them come across as tools.

I never had it this bad in my home games, but sometimes on a £50 buy in, one guy was coming to gamble £100 and another £500 and that frustrated some players who would see the guy with the bigger bankroll playing badly because he was prepared to lose more, create a loose image or whatever reason. If they wanted to play that sort of game we'd have had a cash game instead, where they could pick their spots without fear of being eaten up by the blinds. It was then that I decided that capping rebuys in my tournaments at the level that was affordable to most was a better way forward.

To those who say you should always want poor/noob players in their games I'd say they're always welcome in my cash games but not in my tournaments.

You could have a double or triple chance freezeout BigT?

I think that bad players are easier to play against, you just need to adapt your strategy. For instance, never bluff and get three streets of value out of the weak passive calling stations.
 
That table is immense, been looking here for some http://www.poker-shop.co.uk/home_ta0_gbp_en.html and they are a lot cheaper than i though (though some dont seem to be of brilliant quality. They also sell a handy kidney shaped MDF sheet for £15 which you can use to make your own table which i may give a bash.

Also reminds me i badly need to have the lads round for a poker session :)
 
I think this one looks good for £280

http://www.drinkstuff.com/img/reviews/5180large.jpg

What do you guys think?

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Exact same one on the site i found for £350... i think i'll have a wee nosey at drinkstuff instead :)

Is that a weber one ? if so have heard a few bad reports re quality

Take a look at the gaps in the wood in Andrex's pic, could see a fair few cards getting lost though that.
 
I've had a fair few poker tables and my latest, one of the Webers is really badly built. The racetrack is like a thin veneer of something that peels away, all the fixings are rusted and the felt pitted badly very quickly. This has led me to a conclousion about tables and I would now only go for the following:

1. A nice built table like the one Rotty has - but these cost money
2. A cheap-ish table top that goes over a dining room table. Put a cheap table cloth underneath to stop any scratching from the cheap Chinese craftsmanship. I've been through a few and they are much of a muchness really. Cheapest on eBay normally does the trick.
3. Build one myself. It is not that hard to do and the raw materials are actually quite cheap. There's loads of free plans on this site (together with a lot of other interesting info for those who run games): http://www.homepokertourney.com/
 
Rotty said:
Is that a weber one ? if so have heard a few bad reports re quality

the one I have is from Masino gaming but I am not sure if they are still in business ( and it cost over a grand )

It doesn't say on the Drink Stuff site but if that's the case, may have to steer clear of Weber. I can't really afford a grand. The Paulsons cleaned me out :p

There are some good looking folding table tops on ebay so I may have to investigate one of those instead.

Marty Smith bad beat compilation :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl2_5fFlO2I
 
The drinkstuff one is definitely a Weber one. In fact pretty much all the tables available on UK come from China and aren't great, which is why I think the cheapest eBay deal you can find on a table top is the way to go. Just don't expect them to look quite as good in the flesh as they do in the photos.
 
Ah yes, move up where they'll respect your raises.

My favourite 2+2 line :D

If you take the view to fold your hands if soembody else is allin including AA with an A on the flop, then you will ride through the early rounds but with insufficient chips to play with the high blinds later so no result that way either.

I would need an insanely good read with crazy action to pass AA on an ace-high flop. You have ~35% equity over a nut-flush/nut-straight type of hand, there should be some money/chips in the pot already, plus your opponents range will include draws/bluffs/lower sets/pairs/2pairs making a call profitable in the long run. Obviously, I am generalising, but as a general rule, never pass AA on an ace-high flop, especially against the donkeys you described.
 
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