Your land is mine... WTF
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Thank you :|
Ottamans Ruled the land in about 130-150 years ago…
The histroy am talking about is older, am talking the time before Moses, That land was ruled by Palistine.
Even the Torah mentions David Killing Goliath who was a Palistain (After Moses).
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Lol I don't believe in the Torah. I have my Research from else where. I have other facts from history books that are as old your underwear
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Wrong again. "Goliath" (if he ever existed) was a Philistine, and the Philistines are an extinct nation. They were not indigenous to the lands of Canaan which they subsequently invaded and ruled; they were a seafaring people and had originated in some other part of Asia Minor. Current evidence suggests that they may have emerged from the Myceneans in mainland Greece.
They were certainly not Arabs!
I used it because it’s the closed to book to your understanding.
The other books of history that I read and came to conclusion don’t even exist in Europe except maybe in Vatican city library.
The problem is… that non of you have an idea… sorry to say but you read your recent published books, and the media and word of mouth etc.
Am no historian but certain matters that matter to me I read upon and I don’t just read what's written here in Europe or get my information from the media or just one religious text.
I get my information from any means possible, read almost everything there is and make up my mind upon the facts.
I might be wrong or I might be right… but at the end of the day I done what I need to do in order to come to an understanding and conclusion.
Your opinion is well respected and is taken in to consideration but insults are not.
Anyway I ranted originally because I don’t like the idea of people being kicked out of there houses because the land belongs to someone else (if that is for real) and the whole international community is against it.
Its just not human, where they Muslims, Jews, Christian, etc
but this is the way of Man!
The other books of history that I read and came to conclusion don’t even exist in Europe except maybe in Vatican city library.
The problem is… that non of you have an idea… sorry to say but you read your recent published books, and the media and word of mouth etc.
Am no historian but certain matters that matter to me I read upon and I don’t just read what's written here in Europe or get my information from the media or just one religious text.
I get my information from any means possible, read almost everything there is and make up my mind upon the facts.
I might be wrong or I might be right… but at the end of the day I done what I need to do in order to come to an understanding and conclusion.
Your opinion is well respected and is taken in to consideration but insults are not.
Anyway I ranted originally because I don’t like the idea of people being kicked out of there houses because the land belongs to someone else (if that is for real) and the whole international community is against it.
Its just not human, where they Muslims, Jews, Christian, etc
but this is the way of Man!
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Wrong again. "Goliath" (if he ever existed) was a Philistine, and the Philistines are an extinct nation. They were not indigenous to the lands of Canaan which they subsequently invaded and ruled; they were a seafaring people and had originated in some other part of Asia Minor. Current evidence suggests that they may have emerged from the Myceneans in mainland Greece.
They were certainly not Arabs!
So how is it the land belongs to the Jews?!
Because they invaded and conquered the land of Canaan 4,000 years ago, and established their own nation (called Israel). Canaan itself had not been a nation; it was a land divided into various warring tribes, all of which are now extinct.
In 1947, the United Nations agreed that Israel should be returned to its rightful owners - the Jews - and re-established as the Jewish state.
I'd like everyone here to imagine how they'd feel if another country came into yours and started taking it over bit by bit until all of you were crushed into one small part of the country.
Israel courts should have no jurisdiction over Palestinian lands. And to say that there was no Palestinian state beforehand is just bs, the only reason there wasn't was because Britain controlled it as the Palestinian protectorate.
The facts of the matter are these:
The land belonged to the Palestinians but was controlled and governed by Britain.
The zionists decided that they wanted to control the traditional home of their religion again after being away for so long so they organised movements from the late 1800s that are still continuing to move jews into Palestine.
After WW2 the entire world had an attack of guilt over the holocaust and decided rather stupidly that the best course of action was to give the jews some land from the Palestinian protectorate.
This of course ****ed off the local muslim countries and coupled with the terrorist acts the jews committed on the arabs living there they decided enough was enough and they were going to kick them out.
No such luck, with american equipment and training and some brilliant tactical manoeuvring the israelis kicked some arab butt and won the war taking over a few chunks of land in the meantime.
Since then and pretty much using that war and the guerilla actions of a relatively small amount of Palestinians they have encroached far more land then they were originally intended to have.
Of course this pee'd off the Palestinians even more and so more and more started fighting back and started using terrorist methods (bad idea) to fight. Israel of course used these attacks to justify reducing Palestinian lands to the state it is in today which is basically one city and airport about with a total area of about 7 or 8 square miles.
So please explain who is the instigator of the troubles? Who started it? Well apart from the wests foolish move of creating Israel in the first place and the worldwide attack of guilt it is the jewish who insisted on moving to the land because it used to be theirs 2000 odd years ago
I don't agree with terrorist acts but I also don't agree that Israel have any rights to lands that belong to the Palestinians. If it would be feasible to do so I would have Israel move back to the borders it legally should own (the UN agreement of 1947) and create a Palestinian state from the rest so everyone gets what they deserve.
Since when does being jewish give you the right to **** off an entire country, take their land and not expect retaliation in all forms?
EDIT: This is where the borders legally are under UN ruling:
And today:
The west bank land that is supposedly Palestinian is basically the desert that no one wants, all water supply and towns belong to the Israelis now.
Israel courts should have no jurisdiction over Palestinian lands. And to say that there was no Palestinian state beforehand is just bs, the only reason there wasn't was because Britain controlled it as the Palestinian protectorate.
The facts of the matter are these:
The land belonged to the Palestinians but was controlled and governed by Britain.
The zionists decided that they wanted to control the traditional home of their religion again after being away for so long so they organised movements from the late 1800s that are still continuing to move jews into Palestine.
After WW2 the entire world had an attack of guilt over the holocaust and decided rather stupidly that the best course of action was to give the jews some land from the Palestinian protectorate.
This of course ****ed off the local muslim countries and coupled with the terrorist acts the jews committed on the arabs living there they decided enough was enough and they were going to kick them out.
No such luck, with american equipment and training and some brilliant tactical manoeuvring the israelis kicked some arab butt and won the war taking over a few chunks of land in the meantime.
Since then and pretty much using that war and the guerilla actions of a relatively small amount of Palestinians they have encroached far more land then they were originally intended to have.
Of course this pee'd off the Palestinians even more and so more and more started fighting back and started using terrorist methods (bad idea) to fight. Israel of course used these attacks to justify reducing Palestinian lands to the state it is in today which is basically one city and airport about with a total area of about 7 or 8 square miles.
So please explain who is the instigator of the troubles? Who started it? Well apart from the wests foolish move of creating Israel in the first place and the worldwide attack of guilt it is the jewish who insisted on moving to the land because it used to be theirs 2000 odd years ago
I don't agree with terrorist acts but I also don't agree that Israel have any rights to lands that belong to the Palestinians. If it would be feasible to do so I would have Israel move back to the borders it legally should own (the UN agreement of 1947) and create a Palestinian state from the rest so everyone gets what they deserve.
Since when does being jewish give you the right to **** off an entire country, take their land and not expect retaliation in all forms?
EDIT: This is where the borders legally are under UN ruling:
And today:
The west bank land that is supposedly Palestinian is basically the desert that no one wants, all water supply and towns belong to the Israelis now.
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Yes you are right with that point, however The land was lost and gained, lost and gained, Arab tribes also used to live there. Does that mean that although the land was lost, they can claim it when ever they want?
LOL
Well, the Palestinians can't relate to that, since they've never been a nation and they've never had a separate country.
It is not "bs"; it is simple fact. Britain only controlled it for a short period. What do you think was going on before then? Are you claiming that a Palestinian state - owned, occupied and ruled by Palestinians - existed prior to that time? Haven't you read the history? Don't you know the origins of the word "Palestinian"? Aren't you familiar with the definition of this word, as defined by the Palestinians themselves?
The Palestinians are Arab nationals, by their own admission. They are asking for a distinct, individual Palestinian nation, which is something that has never previously existed. It's a shame that they want to steal land from Israel, Egypt and Syria in order to do this - but then, the Palestinians were never very good at sharing.
It doesn't. What is this "country" you keep talking about? What country would that be?
Of course it does. The Jews maintained their connection with the land; they continued to live in it; hell, they even continued to govern themselves, during the Persian, Greek and Roman occupations. Australian Aborigines have been granted tens of thousands of hectares on less evidence than the Jews have for their claim to Israel.
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