Your land is mine... WTF

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i still dont get with all the land that the arabs have in neighbouring countries why they wont take in the palastinians ?

arabs have about 20 countries (guess?) and the jews have one, yet they still fight over a tiny land
No, you mean there are 20ish countries that have a majority ethnic Arab population.

If someone came an annexed southern England saying it's fine because Europeans live in plenty of other countries would that be OK?

The Jews have no country for historic reasons which are no fault of the modern day Palestinian population. The Jewish people do have a claim to part of the land which is now called Israel. But it's by no means strong enough to warrant the stance they have taken in resent years imho.
 
Dodger if evidence no…

for the past 50 or so years, the Jews have invested considerable amount of money to alter the books and feed false information, which I can see they have succeeded.

The point is and from my knowledge the land was occupied by Palestinians and after was partially was given to the Jews who came from all over the world to live in.

the Palestinians refused and rejected the idea because it belonged to them.

My evidence is from what I read in old books and the evidence that is on the internet is not what I would say solid evidence because anyone can modify the information on Wiki.

The problem is that because the west hates the Arabs and the Arabs hate the west, we are in the middle of having some Arabs making their own stories and feeding their nation and the west is making their stories and feeding the nation.

I have read enough to understand that The land belongs not to the Arab… but to the Palestinians mainly as they controlled the place although very badly. Other nations lived in it because of its holy significance but they lived in peace.

I seen footage of what the Israeli army did to the Palestinians after the Americans and British gave them WMD's. But who cares about that the most important thing is that Israel is getting what they want.
 
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You cannot claim land on the basis of religion either. Otherwise I'd just go 'I'm a Jedi' and claim your front garden because I can feel the force particularly well there.
 
You don't really need to be on a high horse to see that what the Israelis are doing is wrong.

Palestinians owned and lived in that house. They shouldn't expect anyone to go 'right, you're out'. It doesn't matter if it's to do with religion, or nationality, or whatever. A house is a house. No country in the world should be doing forceful evictions for something the original owners have no control over.

Yep, I agree with all of that.

The fact that it's part of an encroaching initiative by the Israelis against the backdrop of a globally suspected undercurrent of genocide and marginality of the Palestinians just make it worse.

Nope, can't agree with that. There is no "globally suspected undercurrent of genocide and marginality of the Palestinians". If anything, they are the most strongly represented, supported and financed group of stateless Arabs in the Middle East.

In July this year, the Palestinians received $200 million from the USA. Last year, the Palestinians received €296 million from the European Union.

Examples could be multiplied. The Palestinians certainly aren't short of cash. What they're short of is good governance and a desire for peace.

Accepted it? Doesn't look that like that anymore.

My point is that they accepted it at the time. They have since gone on to breach its conditions repeatedly.
 
Palestinians owned and lived in that house. They shouldn't expect anyone to go 'right, you're out'. It doesn't matter if it's to do with religion, or nationality, or whatever. A house is a house. No country in the world should be doing forceful evictions for something the original owners have no control over.

What if the original owners sold the land? Who owns it then?


The fact that it's part of an encroaching initiative by the Israelis against the backdrop of a globally suspected undercurrent of genocide and marginality of the Palestinians just make it worse.

You would have thought with all of their experience during WW2 that the jews would be better at this genocide they are being accused of. I mean after 60 years there are actually more palestinians around than when this genocide was meant to have started.
 
Dodger if evidence no…

for the past 50 or so years, the Jews have invested considerable amount of money to alter the books and feed false information, which I can see they have succeeded.

And the proof of this is what exactly? Why have so many historians just happily gone along with this massive conspiracy to rewrite history?

The point is and from my knowledge the land was occupied by Palestinians and after was partially was given to the Jews who came from all over the world to live in.

Your knowledge is wrong.

the Palestinians refused and rejected the idea because it belonged to them.

Except those that sold large tracts of land to the jews not to mention the many jews already living there.

My evidence is from what I read in old books and the evidence that is on the internet is not what I would say solid evidence because anyone can modify the information on Wiki.

And yet you cannot supply a single title of those books or their authors. Sadly it sounds like the sort of biased rubbish taught in mosques around the world.

I have read enough to understand that The land belongs not to the Arab… but to the Palestinians mainly as they controlled the place although very badly. Other nations lived in it because of its holy significance but they lived in peace.

Palestinians are Arabs aren't they?


I seen footage of what the Israeli army did to the Palestinians after the Americans and British gave them WMD's. But who cares about that the most important thing is that Israel is getting what they want.

Of course you have, unfortunately once again you are completely unable to provide proof...
 
Yep, I agree with all of that.



Nope, can't agree with that. There is no "globally suspected undercurrent of genocide and marginality of the Palestinians". If anything, they are the most strongly represented, supported and financed group of stateless Arabs in the Middle East.

In July this year, the Palestinians received $200 million from the USA. Last year, the Palestinians received €296 million from the European Union.

Examples could be multiplied. The Palestinians certainly aren't short of cash. What they're short of is good governance and a desire for peace.



My point is that they accepted it at the time. They have since gone on to breach its conditions repeatedly.

Where is the money then?

I don't see it being used to build the country, every time its rebuilt its bombed to the ground again! Corruption maybe.

There are babies who don't have milk and end up starving to death, dont tell me what is Israel is doing is Justified.

Unless you live there you wouldn't know. I am just thankful I never had to experience what they are going through.

You cant just go around and device land, like its happening today.
 
This could go on forever.

Anyway I stand by what I said...


Evidence is in front of you keep looking, one day you will find what your looking for
 
This could go on forever.

Anyway I stand by what I said...


Evidence is in front of you keep looking, one day you will find what your looking for

It would end as soon as you provide some of this so called 'evidence'.

Others in this thread have at least provided some forms of evidence to back their claims. Yours is so far based on imaginary books and text of which the world have never seen.

If it exists then great, prove it... Until then of course it's going to go on forever because it's just you refusing to back up anything you have been posting
 
This could go on forever.

Anyway I stand by what I said...


Evidence is in front of you keep looking, one day you will find what your looking for

It could end really quickly, just provide details of your sources and job done. But unsuprisingly you won't.
 
Where is the money then?

I don't see it being used to build the country, every time its rebuilt its bombed to the ground again! Corruption maybe.

There are babies who don't have milk and end up starving to death, dont tell me what is Israel is doing is Justified.

Unless you live there you wouldn't know. I am just thankful I never had to experience what they are going through.

You cant just go around and device land, like its happening today.

Unfortunately when you have a leader who would be ousted in peace time, he has no desire for peace, he spends large sums of the cash, even the cash we give them, on weapons and arms and its VERY often them who start the fighting time and time again.

Last "peace talks" came around and things were going well, they wanted more money so they played their old trick of, lets commit some terrorist style attacks, randomly fire rockets into a city while we're pretending to be at peace, then cry foul when a far superior military reacts and reacts very effectively. Its clearly Israels fault that Palestinians us the dispicable tactic of firing from resedential buildings and hiding among citizens and when the innocent are caught in the cross fire again Palestinian leaders cry foul and ask for aid, even though they started the fight yet again.

ITs a repeating cycle, the current leaders want to stay in power, they rile up the population and preach hatred and spend their money on weapons.

If they spent no money on weapons, there wouldn't be a single starving child anywhere there. If Israel decided to unprovoked, attack Palestine while they were defenseless we'd step in. You know why we never step in to stop Israel, because MOST of their actions in the past couple decades are defensive, not offensive.


Abz, you're being truly ridiculous, give one single source for one iota of the information you're spouting, or seriously, just go away.

Every conspiracy theorist nut job who refuses to use, you know, logic and reasoning bemoans the massive wealth of information that backs them up yet always refuse point blank to show any of it.
 
i still dont get with all the land that the arabs have in neighbouring countries why they wont take in the palastinians ?

Because the last time they did the Palestinians tried to other throw the government and take the country for their own.
 
Every conspiracy theorist nut job who refuses to use, you know, logic and reasoning bemoans the massive wealth of information that backs them up yet always refuse point blank to show any of it.

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Was just about to say "I'm sorry Abz but you are begining to sound like a lazy random conspiracy theory believer"

These good people have spent their time providing valid arguments and you respond with condescending religious drivel.
 
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Was just about to say "I'm sorry Abz but you are begining to sound like a lazy random conspiracy theory believer"

These good people have spent their time providing valid arguments and you respond with condescending religious drivel.

Don't forget the "i won't tell you where this information is, once you're ready to find it, it will find you" utter BS type nonsense.

Am I completely wrong, or did he suggest that Israel has used nukes or other WMD's on Palestine aswell?
 
Guys... I am at work now... I opened this thread to rant about the eviction of Palestinians from their homes.

The evidence you require I will try to find online to back my sayings. I will try my best to provide you the information from the internet. I will try to back why the land should belong to the Palestinians.

If I fail to provide the evidence then you can either take do your research on what I have said or brand me as a lunatic who doesn't know what am talking about. Please give me a couple of days.
 
Lets get things strait here... People who dont know whats going on are quite ignorant of the real facts.

The fact is that most peoples knowlege of Palestine is false. Palestinians HAVE ZERO right to the land and should not be there in the first place!

Before you slate me look up the history yourself.

Israel at the time the Jews moved back was virtually uninhabibited desert land. When the UK gave the land back to the Jews, Muslims who are brainwashed to hate and kill Jews moved to the land. This is commanded in the Quran. It was the Jews who irrigated the land and made it possible to live there. If it was not for their work no one could live in that area.

None of the so called Palestinians have a right to the land as they moved there AFTER the Jews moved back to cause problems to the Jews though hatred.
 
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Guys... I am at work now... I opened this thread to rant about the eviction of Palestinians from their homes.

The evidence you require I will try to find online to back my sayings. I will try my best to provide you the information from the internet. I will try to back why the land should belong to the Palestinians.

If I fail to provide the evidence then you can either take do your research on what I have said or brand me as a lunatic who doesn't know what am talking about. Please give me a couple of days.

Sources have gone from "books as old as your underwear" to "the internet". This is becoming less and less reputable by the second.
 
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