Champions Online

mart981 said:
But Bill Roper is there as design director, what could possibly go wrong? ;)
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Absolutely! Was completely screwed over by Roper et al with Hellgate, wouldn't touch anything he's involved in with a 10ft pole!

Who in their right mind thought Roper was a good addition to the team after the Flagship fiasco!
 
yup 17th for the open, it would need huge and massive wide sweeping changes to be anything but a consoley piece of pap to be honest. Huge it won't be, not after the free month is up anyway.

THe problem is the combat just isn't fun, its some weirdly badly animated crap which doesn't even look cool, is boring and the game is essentially auto attack, and apparently its essentially auto attack all the way to the level cap because you HAVE to use the basic attack to get energy to use the other attacks.

Seriously, I'd have been happier with an exact replica of COH but updated massively even with the same missions and world, over what I've seen of this so far. WHich is a huge shame, consolitis at its worst, making it basic enough to play on a controller would always be detrimental to a MMO which in general give you far more attacks, buffs, debuff's than the majority of other types of games.

Honestly even if it was fully stable I'd not be happy but considering it was constantly crashing. Yes for the person that will say "but its a beta" , a game that a month from release is causing this level of crashing is not promising.

Its COH, dumbed down a ridiculous amount, with terrible combat. :(
 
I've been playing the beta for the past few months now.

Will I be pre-ordering it? No.

I played CoH from beta to "issue 5" of its retail release and stopped playing as it got far too repetitive!
 
I sense I would spend 3-4 hours having all kinds of fun in the character creator then 5 minutes of meh in the actual game before returning to the creator for a few more hours before uninstall ^^
 
This list might help you guys. It is a list of all the pre-order options in the UK made by Monkeyguy over at http://thefew.guildomatic.com/.

Play.com
£24.99 - Free Delivery
Open Beta access
Head start access (24th august - 1st september)

In-Game Items:
Neutronium Shoulder Generators (Shoulders)
Insectoid Airfoil (Wings)
Inborn Tenacity (Damage Resistance)

Link: http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/6080087/Champions-Online


Amazon
£24.96 - Free Delivery
Open Beta access
Head start access (24th august - 1st september)

In-Game Items:
Harlequin Headpiece
Retro Jetpro

Link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Atari-27871..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1249424128&sr=8-1


Game
£24.99 - Plus delivery
Head start access (28th august - 1st september)

In-Game Items:
Questionite Power Armor
Grenade Bandoliers
Benign Symbiote Function Item (Damage Resistance)

Link: http://www.game.co.uk/PC/RolePlayin...~r340783/Champions-Online/?s=champions online


Gamestation
£24.99 - Free Delivery
Head start access (24th august - 1st september)

In-Game Items:
Secondary Mutation Function Item
Vigilante Skewerhelm
Kendrium Shoulderpad

Link: http://gamestation.co.uk/PC/RolePlaying/MassivelyMultiplayer/~r416045/ChampionsOnline/


Direct2drive
£29.95 - No delivery (digital download Razz)
Open Beta access

In-Game Items:
Mechanoppendage Backpack

Link: http://www.direct2drive.co.uk/8333/product/Buy-Champions-Online-Download?camp=fplni

Also, you can now subscribe once you have your open beta key/retail key. There is a limited time offer over at http://champions-online.com/. This also gives you access to the Star Trek Online Closed Beta...the main reason I went for it :)

Hope this helps.
 
Recieved an email this morning about Champions.

Limited Champions Subscription Deals!
August 5, 2009

We at Cryptic Studios and Atari are excited to announce our Champions Online six-month and lifetime subscription plans. Players who sign up for our long-term subscriptions will receive special perks, including eight additional character slots, special costume sets and guaranteed access to the Star Trek Online closed beta!

"Beyond the deep discount on the subscription rates, we wanted to come up with added incentives and exclusives that, as gamers, we could get excited about," said Jack Emmert, Cryptic Studios' Chief Operating Officer. "With an early commitment to Champions Online, granting guaranteed early access to our next big game, Star Trek Online, seemed like a great way to engage Cryptic’s biggest fans in other projects at the studio.”

Here are the great features our loyal customers will receive.

Discounted Lifetime Subscription

* Guaranteed Star Trek Online Closed Beta Access
* Eight Additional Character Slots
* Foxbat Vanity Pet
* Art Deco Costume Set
* Retro Future Costume Set
* STO Mirror Universe Costume Set

Discounted Six-month Subscription

* Guaranteed Star Trek Online closed beta access
* Retro Future Costume Set

Don’t miss out on these great deals! You can purchase your subscriptions now!

Discounted Lifetime Subscription
$199.99 USD
$219.99 CAN
£119.99 GBP
€147.99 EUR

Discounted Six-month Subscription
$59.99 USD
$65.99 CAN
£35.99 GBP
€44.99 EUR
 
theukmoog said:
About Roper, yes.

After the Flagship/Hellgate debacle I'm just staggered any other company would employ this muppet.
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Mr Roper has been famous in the gaming community for a long long time before the failure of Hellgate. It's kind of sad in my mind that his one recent gaming failure has so overshadowed his many past successes. Just the human condition I guess: all that matters is the present and the most recent past. And lets be honest, Hellgate London NEVER looked good in any of the previews I read. Champions Online looks awesome. And Star Trek Online looks EVEN MORE awesome :)
 
I liked it quite a bit too, I didn't and wouldn't pay a sub to play it but it was pretty good fun. It isn't just that Hellgate failed though and people who bought the lifetime sub got screwed it's that Roper said afterwards he knew it wasn't ready for release and admitted some other things that he had lied about during the promotion of the game and it's early days. I'm sure there's a website that details the goings on.

So for a lot of people it's more about him personally and not just that a game he made failed.
 
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mart981 said:
It isn't just that Hellgate failed though and people who bought the lifetime sub got screwed it's that Roper said afterwards he knew it wasn't ready for release and admitted some other things that he had lied about during the promotion of the game and it's early days. I'm sure there's a website that details the goings on.
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=183206

also see...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flagshipped

http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1094
 
Do'h, forgot it was another chance to constantly blue screen my computer today, patching now, blue screen's await me in 20-30mins, wooo.

Looks like at least one pretty radical change, you run into battle with full energy so can do some bigger power moves straight off with I assume energy building powers thrown in to keep it up. How big a difference that will make I don't know, the game started and kept crashing before I had more than one default and one power attack anyway :p
 
Yes, Hellgate did fail under Roper, but CO has been developed by Cryptic Studios, one of the biggest MMO software houses out there along with the financial backing of Atari.

The game is a definite improvement over CoH and I've spent many a late night beta testing it over the past few months.
 
Just playing more, can't believe anyone could say its an improvement. The movement feels horrible, just jerky, the targetting is dodgey at best, laggy and weird, the animations for attacks(on a martial arts guy) are boring, crap and full of stupid kicks that look frankly, crap. The interface is far worse, the lack of any real feeling so far.

THe weird as heck level/server setup, its just born for consoles, enter a zone after choosing one, weird small area's and lack of people.

Maybe I'm just missing(or not got to) the massive open world with any number of players around and the fact that attacks in COH actually felt like you were doing something.

EDIT:- To be fair, this time around I got a good 15 mins in before a crash, thats above 14 minutes more than I managed on Friday. if the game continues to improve by 1500% every 4 days it "might" end up good :p
 
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drunkenmaster said:
Just playing more, can't believe anyone could say its an improvement. The movement feels horrible, just jerky, the targetting is dodgey at best, laggy and weird, the animations for attacks(on a martial arts guy) are boring, crap and full of stupid kicks that look frankly, crap. The interface is far worse, the lack of any real feeling so far.

THe weird as heck level/server setup, its just born for consoles, enter a zone after choosing one, weird small area's and lack of people.

Maybe I'm just missing(or not got to) the massive open world with any number of players around and the fact that attacks in COH actually felt like you were doing something.

EDIT:- To be fair, this time around I got a good 15 mins in before a crash, thats above 14 minutes more than I managed on Friday. if the game continues to improve by 1500% every 4 days it "might" end up good :p
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This still is only the closed beta. They are making changes all of the time.
 
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