Doesn't really hit home until....

Whatever happened to this country.

I agree with whats said above, poor parenting.
How a child turns out is directly related to how they're brought up, obviously, and some sick person who could do this.. makes me so mad.
 
mrk said:
When I was in school teachers clipped you around the ears or made you stand on tables on your own facing the wall or dragged you into the headmasters office which on its own looked eerie so nobody ever wnated to go there.

Now I'm 25 and this was in Queens County primary in Stoke at the time and not a single sole misbehaved.

What happened to them days! Now they're PAYING kids to go to school? parents are far too tame these days and because of this teachers are forced to feflect this tameness.

Tough Love is the way it was and the way it should remain.
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Sounds like the kid's at your school were repressed then. Glad I never went there.
 
Update-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/8193511.stm

A 20-year-old man and a 16-year-old boy have been found guilty of murdering a father-of-five as he walked home from a Staffordshire shop.

Michael Eccles was attacked as he returned to his home, in the Dimbles area of Lichfield, on 25 January 2009.

The 43-year-old died a day later from injuries he sustained.

Carl Keatley, of Greencroft, and teenager Jordan Carroll, who is also from Lichfield, were convicted at Birmingham Crown Court.

The youth's father Edward Carroll, 55, was found guilty of perverting the course of justice.

The court was told he tried to help his son "cover up" the crime by putting his blood-stained clothes in the washing machine and cleaning blood from his head.

Judge Robert Juckes QC said the case had been "difficult and troubling".

He adjourned sentencing until 11 September. All three were remanded in custody.
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They originally pleaded not guilty to murder but guilty to manslaughter. Now lets wait and see what sentences they get.
 
Chimerical said:
No, its all nonsense perpetrated by whining adults.

Knife crime needs sorting, but as I've said before, its mostly related to education in my mind.

Poor parenting is a factor, but poor parenting doesn't always equate to unemployment, anger, violence, gangs, etc on its own merits.

This whole youth of today junk annoys me so much. I'm part of the "youth of today" techincally, maybe I should stab some people to prove everyone's little theory correct.
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Yes, you and me may be law abiding decent youths but there are LOADS of youths who aren't. Do you honestly think it's fine as things are?

I think you must live in a really nice area tbh.
 
This situation isn't one where we can just blame a certain group.

Society is implicit in the blame. The country has lost the focus of what is actually important in life. The problem was the pendalum effect.

We were a very austere society (one end of the pendalum swing). Eventually this was broken and we have swung the other other end of the pendalum swing.

We convinced ourselves that children limited our lives and once we had them it was all over. We have created a society which does not value or want children.

We are living the result of this.
 
Missing.String said:
There are plenty of adults who break the law as well.

ZOMG ADULTS ARE DESTROYING SOCIETY
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True, adults do break the law. However, when was the last time you saw a large group of feral adults on the prowl, going around getting slaughtered on wife-beater and generally being violent little ****s? I've not seen a gang of balding 40 year olds with paunches standing on a street corner shouting abuse at passers-by.
 
IMO it's not as much related to bad parenting as people say. The problem is that youths aspire to different things nowadays.
There were always scum and there always will be, it's what happens :/

The punishments that come from chav-ish behaviour are too low but just giving someone a criminal record isn't exactly a good thing to do. If someone has a criminal record there is a lot of stuff that they are then cut off from, and this won't necessarily make them a better person. If they can't get a job because they got arrested a few times then they're just going to go back to what they had before. I know this is somewhat contradictory but there's not really anyway around it with the current legal system.

I think a lot of the problem comes from other countries. Being such a multicultural society has, as has been pointed out already in this thread, advantages and disadvantages. In America (north and south) gangs have become a much bigger problem in recent years, and I believe this is coming over here. In the less developed countries violence and crime are a much more commonplace thing, and so people from these countries are more accepting of this, and also generally more susceptible to getting involved in criminal activity.

There are always anomalies, not everyone from a poor background, or who had bad parents will become a scumbag. It's just that the majority have had problems earlier in life.
 
As I have always said and always will...

This country has a matter of years until it's considered a **** hole by everyone else in the world.

We all already know it. But soon, it will be over run by other cultures, our spineless government will have given the responsability to someone who isn't even British and the English people will start to migrate in mass...

Years, not decades, years.

chris
 
Vigilantism t b h. A serious knee capping or two (or the threat of by masked dudes in vans) would sort these ***** out, Irish style. :D
 
Thing is if you always blame bad parenting..

IF they have bad parents, then the parent's must have had bad parents, and their parents must've had bad parents, and their parents must've been bad parents... ad infinitum..

:p
 
agnes said:
As I have always said and always will...

This country has a matter of years until it's considered a **** hole by everyone else in the world.

We all already know it. But soon, it will be over run by other cultures, our spineless government will have given the responsability to someone who isn't even British and the English people will start to migrate in mass...

Years, not decades, years.

chris
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^^ I aggree
 
The OP's story (and updates) are sad, but the law does appear to be working so far. :)

Azagoth said:
True, adults do break the law. However, when was the last time you saw a large group of feral adults on the prowl, going around getting slaughtered on wife-beater and generally being violent little ****s? I've not seen a gang of balding 40 year olds with paunches standing on a street corner shouting abuse at passers-by.
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That's a brilliant mental image. :D
 
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