why is Al Megrahi hailed as a hero in libya ?

There's serious question marks over two of the key evidence used to convict Megrahi. The "Malteses shopkeepers" evidence has largely been discredited, plus he is supposed to have been paid several million dollars by the FBI, the timer that was supposed to have been used has reported not to have been of Swiss/Libyan origin like was originally claimed, and again the witness was offered money by the FBI.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/world/europe/29lockerbie.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/sep/02/theairlineindustry.libya

The whole thing reeks of a coverup and Megrahi being a patsy to serve the US, UK and Libya's needs, whilst at the same time ignoring the truth. It's a shame it's ended the way it has, with Megrahi withdrawing his appeal, it's conviently saved the UK/US a lot of embarassment.
 
dangerstat said:
Well mainly because of these types of threada, where people with no knowledge enter, and claim knowledge without having any. When I see a post on "spec me a tractor", do you know what, I don't post in it, because I know nothing about tractors. I feel some members post pretending to have an air of knowledge on a subject they know nothing about bar reading a wiki page.
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I actually read Fox's post as an 'opinion', isn't that the point of the thread, MrLOL asked what we 'thought' and Mr Fox said he 'thought' the iranian stories was more credible. That neither claims knowledge, nor suggests he claims knowlege, it was just an opinion.

However, your gung ho approach to Fox's reply seemed to express that you have a problem with him, them to call him an idiot and a spoon sets this theory into concrete. Which of course had no bearing to this thread whatsoever, but then again, neither does this reply, but it goes to prove a point.
 
dangerstat said:
For the precise reason I think he has no knowledge on the subject, if Fox posts in here with a certificate showing he has a masters in international relations then I will retract fully my comments and apologise. In fact I will purchase Mr Fox a beer.
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Why do I need a Masters in International Relations to have an opinion on world affairs?
 
Cob said:
Are you drunk?
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At least i'm not the only one confused by his last two posts.:)

dangerstat do you mean you don't read the New Scientist but do read the sun?:confused:

The only reason I mention where you get your information from is due to it seemingly contradicting my own experience with Libyans. :)
 
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wez130 said:
I actually read Fox's post as an 'opinion', isn't that the point of the thread, MrLOL asked what we 'thought' and Mr Fox said he 'thought' the iranian stories was more credible. That neither claims knowledge, nor suggests he claims knowlege, it was just an opinion.

However, your gung ho approach to Fox's reply seemed to express that you have a problem with him, them to call him an idiot and a spoon sets this theory into concrete. Which of course had no bearing to this thread whatsoever, but then again, neither does this reply, but it goes to prove a point.
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Well that is fair and I was a little harsh on Mr Fox, and perhaps I do, no well I do have a problem with his general approach. But I do think that threads like these attract posts that some how infer the poster has any clue about the situation. Which is almost the antithesis of a post in GH per say.

I don't quite understand how a technically proficient member of OCUK some how respects there complete lack of any knowledge to post on a GH type thread, but then thinks they are somehow an expert on world affairs in GH or SC?
 
scorza said:
Ironically because it was believed that it was impossible to have a fair trial by jury in such a high profile, emotive case.
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No, that was not the reason. The reason why he wasn't tried by a jury is because Libya made this a condition of his extradition. They also stipulated that (a) nobody else in Libya was to be pursued as a suspect, and (b) Megrahi was to be denied a police interview.

The UK agreed with all three of these conditions, and ensured that they were enforced. Libya made her demands, and the UK met them. That's why he wasn't tried by a jury. It had nothing to do with fairness.
 
dangerstat said:
Well that is fair and I was a little harsh on Mr Fox, and perhaps I do, no well I do have a problem with his general approach. But I do think that threads like these attract posts that some how infer the poster has any clue about the situation. Which is almost the antithesis of a post in GH per say.

I don't quite understand how a technically proficient member of OCUK some how respects there complete lack of any knowledge to post on a GH type thread, but then thinks they are somehow an expert on world affairs in GH or SC?
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So basically, you are letting your preconceived opinion of Fox rule and not reading between the lines, i didn't read where Fox had claimed to have knowledge of the history of the matter, again, as in my previous post, it was an opinion and not factual matter, and i'm sorry, but i don't have big words to decorate my post to make it look more intellectual like you ;)
 
dangerstat said:
I don't quite understand how a technically proficient member of OCUK some how respects there complete lack of any knowledge to post on a GH type thread, but then thinks they are somehow an expert on world affairs in GH or SC?
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Where have I stated I am an expert on world affairs? I expressed my opinion and nothing more.

Surely somebody who infers to be as bright as yourself can work out the difference between fact and opinion without needing to be babied with posts like IN MY HUMBLE AND UNEDUCATED OPINION, I THINK.... before everything they say?
 
worrying is that EU wants to do business with kandafi (Italy for example) , oil and gas reserves in libya are rich. While your countries have sacrificed their sons in Iran and Afghanistan in the war against terror you are liberating a terrorist and for what? for a few barrels more. Imagine how the families of the victims and of the soldiers are feeling right now
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
worrying is that EU wants to do business with kandafi (Italy for example) , oil and gas reserves in libya are rich. While your countries have sacrificed their sons in Iran and Afghanistan in the war against terror you are liberating a terrorist and for what? for a few barrels more. Imagine how the families of the victims and of the soldiers are feeling right now
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Probably quite happy if they believe it was a miscarriage of justice.
 
Jokester said:
There's serious question marks over two of the key evidence used to convict Megrahi. The "Malteses shopkeepers" evidence has largely been discredited, plus he is supposed to have been paid several million dollars by the FBI, the timer that was supposed to have been used has reported not to have been of Swiss/Libyan origin like was originally claimed, and again the witness was offered money by the FBI.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/world/europe/29lockerbie.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/sep/02/theairlineindustry.libya

The whole thing reeks of a coverup and Megrahi being a patsy to serve the US, UK and Libya's needs, whilst at the same time ignoring the truth. It's a shame it's ended the way it has, with Megrahi withdrawing his appeal, it's conviently saved the UK/US a lot of embarassment.
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i was only a child when he was convicted so never paid any attention

the more i read now over the doubts about his conviction, the more i understand his hereos welcome.

The average man on the street who reads the sun takes it as gospel that this man was responsible for killing all of those passengers. But its not that simple, as you say, it appears theres a very significant possibility he was just a scape goat.

Thanks for the input to the thread, really interesting :)
 
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