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Not a single one of those points justifies ATHEISM. Or dismisses all religion. Just saying...
The god delusion... Religious debate
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Never goign to happen, as long as we have nukes. Which is why we should never disarm.
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Atheism (for me at least) isn't being arrogant in thinking that I know the answer to life and the universe, it's accepting that there is no answer: there is no meaning to life, no reason for the universe to exist and there is nothing at the 'end'.
As said not one of those points is useful for describing yourself as an atheist.
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Well, it was written by different authors, over different times, by different cultures and even, technically, different religions. So I think you have to pick and chose, or you're a nutter (fully entitled to be however).
For instance, believe in the teachings of Christ, irrelevant of his existence or not, but dismiss Genesis. Etc. We also have to remember that a lot of the Bible is metaphorically, allegorical and compounded existing stores/folk lore etc.
I think it is entirely to believe in something, without knowing what. Spiritual if you will.
No your right, probably right, maybe a more agnostic approach if anything. But if i went into depth i could disprove most religion, but only their text not they're theology as such, which of course would spawn a thousand replies about not being able to prove existance of something that doesn't want to prove its existence etc. ( i just thought they were the most important)
But at the same time, as many philosphers have said, you cant disprove a china teapot orbiting the sun, if you haven't seen it.
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Sorry but you are very wrong. I would never deny the possibility of a higher being because it is something that can never be conclusively proven. I can however state that the likelyhood of superman watching over us is small enough to say that I am as certain as can be that it's a load of balls.
It's not that difficult to understand. Even Dawkins does not deny the possibility and I'm pretty sure he's an atheist.
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I think you'll find is a meaning to life. Look in your trousers if you're unsure.
Different thread, but MAD isn't totally complete a strategy. TO quote the Joker, of all people: "Some men just want to watch the world burn.". I totally agreee with your disarming point though.
Please do this. You'd be very famous if you could do it effectively.
That's pretty much where I am on this thing... agnostic.
Any bets on whether this thread decends into a fight and gets locked before morning?
I hope not... if so then it shows religion cant be discussed maturely, we're all adults so I don't see why it can't remain civil with some nice points being made.
Just don't question anyone elses stance on here? They have it cause they believe so... didn't intend this thread to be a PROVE your stance thread.
Ahhhhhh I thought you meant, like growing wings. I was excited.
Personally, I predict a massive war, or pandemic. Maybe I'm a little less optimistic
Haha, growing wings.. maybe millions of years. I agree with you though... War is nearer than we think at the moment, on home soil anyway. I don't like the upscaling of north korea which is definitely a #1 concern for me.
As for pandemic, I think that is just as likely maybe even more so than war, I mean look at the bugs that are about at the moment while our children have no immune systems from being brought up around "disinfectants" and the like.
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Well that makes sense. But it also kind of proves one of the reasons why I despise people who believe wholeheartedly in the Bible - it was written over hundreds of year, by different people and translated numerous times before arriving at its present state.
Perhaps you don't believe in it wholeheartedly, but a lot (most of) the Christians I know do.
On a similar note, and I can't remember the exact details, but wasn't the oldest Bible known discovered recently in a temple with entire books and passages that are missing from the current 'version'?
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Yes, we're on the same page now. I can dismiss (and do) most manmade theology. But can not rule out spirituality etc.
That's the nail on the head. It points out how arrogant/retarded atheists are.
So there is a tiny tiny tiny tiny chance God exists.
Well why not leave them alone then? They *could* be right!
A total belief in no God is identical to a total belief in God. Both are alarming.
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Eh? Reproduction isn't the meaning of life.
Wow what a ridiculous statement.
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Self-propagating. The entire rationale for your existence is that you procreate.
Actually even that may be unsure. There was an argument I recall being put forward a few years ago, that sex is simply a tool used by genes to replicate. Now that may sound obvious but what I mean is that rather than saying genes replicate because we have sex, instead the proposition is that genes have created a way to replicate successfully by using sexual reproduction.
But either way it's still hooooge fun