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ADSL24 - Non LLU - any good?
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If you can't get LLU don't touch UKOnline with a barge pole. They're horrendous, its the LLU product that is decent, and you have a 12 months contract; which I barely got out of.
You can watch the enta noc site to see what load on the different nodes is like; I personally really like the ALT system as it means general usage and gaming are generally fine and low ping ALL the time, which I'd take any day over going from 8 to 5/6mb max line throughput etc (some people are just greedy me thinks, that's more than 75% of the UK can get anyway!)
Im on the Milton Keynes node; and with ADSL24 and UKFSN (my ISP before UKOnline, on a different telephone line), Enta have been rock solid all the way. Im on the family 60 (office 45 on UKFSN) package and I cant recommend them enough, they had a little blip when switching to 21cn but that passed after a few weeks for virtually everyone; as the new server and routing nodes were adjusted.
UKonline are good IF you can get LLU, however if you cant they are heavily oversubscribed and with no plans for upgrades (as per internal memo); so basically you're a little shafted. At approximately 5pm-9pm, my connection was dive bombing in throughput from a 3meg line profile pushing 2600ish kbps dropping to anywhere between 100-1000kbps (not to mention pings were 100 or so just to jolt, and there was packet loss too!). It was that bad.
Enta due to thier ALT system keeps me happily running with decent pings (sub 30ms, usually about 20 to jolt.co.uk), and throughput of 2500kbps all the time.
I may have been unlucky; but if you can accept the shortcomings, and check your node before signing up, Enta are probably the best you can get on Wholesale right now, without spending the earth on Zen et al.
As mentioned, Enta only have a 1 month subscription, so if your area doesnt seem to be terrible, sign up, and see what you think
OH and http://noc.enta.net/21cn-interconnect-status/
If your local interconnect stays under 95-100% during peak, you're probably fine
You can watch the enta noc site to see what load on the different nodes is like; I personally really like the ALT system as it means general usage and gaming are generally fine and low ping ALL the time, which I'd take any day over going from 8 to 5/6mb max line throughput etc (some people are just greedy me thinks, that's more than 75% of the UK can get anyway!)
Im on the Milton Keynes node; and with ADSL24 and UKFSN (my ISP before UKOnline, on a different telephone line), Enta have been rock solid all the way. Im on the family 60 (office 45 on UKFSN) package and I cant recommend them enough, they had a little blip when switching to 21cn but that passed after a few weeks for virtually everyone; as the new server and routing nodes were adjusted.
UKonline are good IF you can get LLU, however if you cant they are heavily oversubscribed and with no plans for upgrades (as per internal memo); so basically you're a little shafted. At approximately 5pm-9pm, my connection was dive bombing in throughput from a 3meg line profile pushing 2600ish kbps dropping to anywhere between 100-1000kbps (not to mention pings were 100 or so just to jolt, and there was packet loss too!). It was that bad.
Enta due to thier ALT system keeps me happily running with decent pings (sub 30ms, usually about 20 to jolt.co.uk), and throughput of 2500kbps all the time.
I may have been unlucky; but if you can accept the shortcomings, and check your node before signing up, Enta are probably the best you can get on Wholesale right now, without spending the earth on Zen et al.
As mentioned, Enta only have a 1 month subscription, so if your area doesnt seem to be terrible, sign up, and see what you think
OH and http://noc.enta.net/21cn-interconnect-status/
If your local interconnect stays under 95-100% during peak, you're probably fine
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Thankyou very much for that warning, thats something that I needed to hear!
With that information, I will definatly be going ahead with ADSL24, as with your information it looks like they are the best to go for due to my non-LLU connections, with no plans to get any LLU products in my area for the short term, I am on the Westerham exchange
With that information, I will definatly be going ahead with ADSL24, as with your information it looks like they are the best to go for due to my non-LLU connections, with no plans to get any LLU products in my area for the short term, I am on the Westerham exchange
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Just check the link I provided, and find the nearest 1 or 2, then keep an eye on them. If they arent always red during peak (red being the are the alt tool kicks in IIRC) then you are good to go
Just check the link I provided, and find the nearest 1 or 2, then keep an eye on them. If they arent always red during peak (red being the are the alt tool kicks in IIRC) then you are good to go
apologies to danceMB for butting in , but whats the best way to confirm the connection your likely to be using via that link alex ?
I'm near Basingstoke so it will be the same hub. Service is fine...I've had no problems at all. Having said that getting some web site connection issues but doubt thats ADSL24. Good service as well....read the forum and there are some terrible experiences but thats the same for all of the suppliers. Mostly individual problems but a speople have said Entanet have gone through a tough change over and didn't handle it well but you should be OK.
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Just see which one you're closest to (all those dials have the city the relevant node is at on); they're spread out fairly economically over the UK, so there should usually be one thats much/a bit closer to you than the rest