Bus Prices

As a bus driver this kind of thing creeps into conversations all the time.

And it gets the stock answer - either pay the fare or get walking - bus operators operate their business on the principle of stage-carriage, using a fare-stage table. Distance to your destination from point of ticket sale has bugger all to do with how much your ticket costs.
 
Bus prices are high, but whether that is necessary is somewhat besides the point. The government needs to stop trying to make personal transportation more expensive than it should be in the hope of trying to force everyone onto a non-existant and expensive public transport network.

If buses can't compete on fair terms, then we need to look at alternative transportation approaches.
 
I always die a little inside when I go back to Gloucestershire from london. London public transport is far from perfect, but I pay just shy of 2k a year for unlimited bus, tube, overground train and I believe river boat access. That gets me from Watford to central London in a quick, sensible reliable (ish) manner. In honesty for people to start really using public transport we need a standard nationwide fare service like oyster where you pay a sensible flat rate cost. I'd only use my car for track days if this was the case
 
It cost me around £3 to get a single from Bristol Temple mead train station to Saltford, which was about 40 minutes on the bus. I doubt that would be cheaper by taxi!

In Plymouth in fact it normally cost around £4.20 to go about a mile. Busses are cheap compared to taxis.

depends how far your going though for shortish distances bus prices are crazy.

from my house near st james park to town its 1.50 on the bus.

if i take a taxi from a local firm that doesnt arrive to pick you up with money on the meter already it only costs 50p more for the taxi.


i remember a time in the 90s when buses used to be cheap
 
As a bus driver this kind of thing creeps into conversations all the time.

And it gets the stock answer - either pay the fare or get walking - bus operators operate their business on the principle of stage-carriage, using a fare-stage table. Distance to your destination from point of ticket sale has bugger all to do with how much your ticket costs.

Even the bus drivers at my local bus station are saying how bad the prices are!

Not having distance based fares is one of the main problems with current bus operators and is why I and many other people take their custom elsewhere, £1.20 to travel less than one mile, it's cheaper to get a taxi.
 
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Even the bus drivers at my local bus station are saying how bad the prices are!

Not having distance based fares is one of the main problems with current bus operators and is why I and many other people take their custom elsewhere, £1.20 to travel less than one mile, it's cheaper to get a taxi.

There are plenty of fares in our operation that I think are over-priced - but I'm the bloke up front who's job is to safely navigate the vehicle on the roads - not argue the toss about the commercial aspect of pricing.

Purely distance based fares will never happen - bus stops are constantly being re-sited, new ones appear without warning and keeping the fares updated would become nigh on impossible. Then you'll always get the numpties who want to argue with you over the price of stage-carriage, never mind a system based solely on distance.

Over the course of a decently long bus journey the fares tend to average themselves out, the longer the individual journey, the better value it is. And this offsets those who are too lazy to walk a couple of hundred yards and have to pay the minimum fare.
 
Nationalise public transport.

Should be an almost non profit organisation, however this kinda goes against all that we have been economically evolved to believe, so to suggest so would brandish me as a "communist" and/or delusional. When will the creation of excess wealth cease to be the norm for civilisation and how we measure it?

Fairs in London are well structured and discounted to decent levels if you use the pre pay scheme but i would hate to live anywhere else, its almost highway robbery.
 
Ive done the train prices thread, now for the bus prices one.

Why is a day rider ticket £4 but a single is £1.70? Most people go into town then come home, not ride the bus all day! I know (and people on here probably will) that im not the best at maths in the world but I can work outs its cheaper to get 2 singles

I see from further down the thread that you're from Leeds.

First LEeds Website said:
FirstDay West Yorkshire - £4.00

Unlimited travel on First buses throughout West Yorkshire - available at any time of day.

FirstDay Leeds Off-Peak - £3.20

Unlimited travel on First buses in the Leeds Metropolitan Boundary. Available after 9.30am Monday-Friday and all day weekends and Bank Holidays. See the maps and routes page for boundaries.

It's retarded, but yes, if you travel before 9.30 and then back again in the evening, 2 single tickets is cheaper.

Personally I just but the £10 Greenzone Weekly pass and I'm laughing :p
 
I see from further down the thread that you're from Leeds.



It's retarded, but yes, if you travel before 9.30 and then back again in the evening, 2 single tickets is cheaper.

Personally I just but the £10 Greenzone Weekly pass and I'm laughing :p

exactly, thought i was only going to need 5 singles (2.5 days) this week but have needed 7 (3.5 days)

Should just do what i did a few years ago and use my weekly rider for 3 weeks in a row!
 
I live about 1 mile or so from town. the walk is all uphill (on the way home) so I like to get the bus.
but recently prices have gone up, so it's cheaper for me to drive into town, pay for 2-3 hours parking and then drive home than get the bus.
stupid.
it's also cheaper for me to drive OUT of town, park in the park and ride then get the cheaper bus from there (can't just use the P&R bus from my house even though it goes past my door.
 
I live about 1 mile or so from town. the walk is all uphill (on the way home) so I like to get the bus.
but recently prices have gone up, so it's cheaper for me to drive into town, pay for 2-3 hours parking and then drive home than get the bus.
stupid.
it's also cheaper for me to drive OUT of town, park in the park and ride then get the cheaper bus from there (can't just use the P&R bus from my house even though it goes past my door.
If you live one mile away, why not bike?
Then it's free and you can go home whenever you want.
 
Even the bus drivers at my local bus station are saying how bad the prices are!

Not having distance based fares is one of the main problems with current bus operators and is why I and many other people take their custom elsewhere, £1.20 to travel less than one mile, it's cheaper to get a taxi.

no-where to store bike and it's REALLY steep and I'm out of shape!

So that's two people moaning about the price of buses being expensive when it's only a mile (or less). Walking a mile will probably only take you 15 minutes, probably less time than walking to the bus stop, waiting for the bus, the bus driving you there, and you getting off again. If you're not fit enough to walk a mile then you really have problems...
 
having walked into town many times now (the bus not having turned up and not being able to take the car for one reason or another) I know it takes 35 mins exactly. guess it could be more than a mile.
it's not the being fit enough it's the not wanting to be sweaty when I get there. if you're going out for the night then you're not going to want to work yourself up like that!
also it's £2 for a return or £1.20 for a single for price comparison.
 
So that's two people moaning about the price of buses being expensive when it's only a mile (or less). Walking a mile will probably only take you 15 minutes, probably less time than walking to the bus stop, waiting for the bus, the bus driving you there, and you getting off again. If you're not fit enough to walk a mile then you really have problems...

I'd rather wait for a bus than walk home from town in a thunderstorm. Besides there's almost always a bus and taxi already at the station to my house.
 
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