BMW 116i M Sport

I get around said:
Most german built engines do moon mileage if treated right, thats not even half a cars economical lifetime 100k.
I'm a vag whore, I purposely look for high milers because you save a ton of dosh, most people don't realise that times have changed and that cars go on for much longer.
And more often than not, low milers have been shagging round town in stop start driving, motorway miles are far less stressful on the engine.

What you save on buying the car, you will save on depreciation anyway.
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The engine is just one peice though isnt it. After that kind of miles, and once its probably been through a few owners the car is probably going to be sha$$ed unless its been cared for very very well throughout its life - which to be honest isn't likely to be the case. The interior trim will be worn, the seat bolsters are likely to be a bit saggy, the car is going to feel pretty worn.

I'm lucky in that I can afford to buy the car I want, at a decent spec level and engine choice without needing to go very old. My choice, your choice. And no, I dont drive a 116 lol ;)
 
metachi said:
no lol. I'm only 25, this was my brother's account and which is now mine.

thanks for advice. i'll skip the old 116i 1.6ltr unless its the new 116i 2.0ltr.
i'm looking for 118 or 120 range now.
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Using your brother's account for members market transactions? nice.
 
mikeh501 said:
Given that you paid 6k less in the first place kinda proves my point doesnt it?
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I think you're missing his point. Buying a higher mileage car has cost him 4k less over the period of ownership than a lower mileage one would have due to it depreciating less.
 
mikeh501 said:
The engine is just one peice though isnt it. After that kind of miles, and once its probably been through a few owners the car is probably going to be sha$$ed unless its been cared for very very well throughout its life - which to be honest isn't likely to be the case. The interior trim will be worn, the seat bolsters are likely to be a bit saggy, the car is going to feel pretty worn.
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So if when you view a car its worn, you dont buy it. Gosh what a difficult concept.

I'm lucky in that I can afford to buy the car I want, at a decent spec level and engine choice without needing to go very old.
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Most of us could if we, like you, looked at the monthly cost and didn't want to own the car outright, so looking down your nose at those who prefer to run slightly older cars instead of hire purchase diesel Audi's is probably not a great idea :)
 
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mikeh501 said:
Yup. I'd take the 30k car over the 60-80k any day. By the time you've done with it after another 3-4 yrs it will have done 100k+ and be practically worthless. No thanks.
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Have you ever though why there worth nothing and why people like Fox (and myself) get such good deals get such cracking deals?

All I can say is... thanks!

Edit- Only just read the replies. Funny stuff.
 
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External Visible VIN
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WTF? I assume OP pasted that from the dealer's site - but when the hell did being able to see the VIN without lifting the bonnet become a selling point?

The engine is just one peice though isnt it. After that kind of miles, and once its probably been through a few owners the car is probably going to be sha$$ed unless its been cared for very very well throughout its life - which to be honest isn't likely to be the case. The interior trim will be worn, the seat bolsters are likely to be a bit saggy, the car is going to feel pretty worn.
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Yeah, my 5 owner, 10 year old, 100k mile A3 is just falling to pieces. I have to have a net attached to the bumper to catch the bits that fall off when I drive to the shops. Oh wait, no I don't.

Flawed argument is flawed.
 
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£12k for a 116 seems very expensive even for a sport.

I realise it's a low-milage 07 number but I've been looking at 55/06 plate 120 sports for less or similar price with about 60k on the clock.

I'd rather get a 120 with 60k on the clock than a 116 with 30k.

Also - I should ad that for £14.5k you could get a 55 plate 530d sport. Just putting it in perspective.

Panzer
 
If you do buy a high milage car (100k+) then make sure its had expensive things changed. i.e. turbos.. they dont last forever and cost a good grand to get replaced. The list can go on but these are things to take into account when buying. So basically if the interior isnt too worn and main expenisive parts have been replaced then its prob worth buying.
Same idea goes a car at 50-60k - is usually coming up to its main big service with timing belts neeing replace, break pads/discs etc. so again u want this work done before u buy.
The best time to buy a car is at the 2-3 year old range or 20k-30k.
For the majority of buyer that arn't after performance cars means the petrol engines are less desirable and so diesel should really be considered no matter how many miles u do - service costs are identical.
As for a weak engine (116i) in a prestige car i see no point.
Remember u can buy an older larger car with more features but with a larger car the servicing will cost more. bmw 5 series services aint cheap unless u know a private specialist garage.
 
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I find it amusing that pretty much this exact conversation happens on here whenever anybody wants something fairly new, which isnt the best spec/engine choice. Although I dont think the 116 is the best choice, but I think going for a 130i at that price level is equally mad. The best choice is if he can get a 120d at his price range with mebbe 50k on the clock and a year older than hes looking at the 116. You only have to look on online to see the market is awash with 116/118 at that price level, with far fewer 120's and only 2-3 130's.

Like anything, buying a car is a trade off of numerous factors; I just think the usual suspects on here who run older cars with decent spec/engine are just as polarised as the OP.

Oh, and Fox. I'm not looking down my nose at anyone, just pointing out that not everyone wants an older car just to get a bigger engine/spec. Hell, not everyone wants a bigger engine full stop.
 
I wasn't for one minute suggesting a 130i is a credible choice for the OP, the fact he would even consider a 116i means the extra running costs of a 130i would give him no benefit.

That charge should be laid firmly at the door of the irritating 'everyone needs a performance car' club here on OcUK, who are also on standby to suggest an older ST220 is a credible alternative to a 1.8 LX or that no, the Golf 1.6 is bad and a previous gen R32 is better..
 
[TW]Fox;14876322 said:
I wasn't for one minute suggesting a 130i is a credible choice for the OP, the fact he would even consider a 116i means the extra running costs of a 130i would give him no benefit.

That charge should be laid firmly at the door of the irritating 'everyone needs a performance car' club here on OcUK, who are also on standby to suggest an older ST220 is a credible alternative to a 1.8 LX or that no, the Golf 1.6 is bad and a previous gen R32 is better..
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Fair enough. I entirely agree.
 
paradigm said:
1) the polo is a lot lighter, so the 1.6 will probably feel slower.
2) why are you after a car with great driving dynamics, only to hinder it with a crappy powerplant? If you are at all interested in the 1 series for any other reason than the badge, you'll want the power to go with the drivetrain and chassis.
3) are you going to get a 1.8 after your bored of the 1.6, then maybe a 2.0 in a few more years? There are no rules regarding engine size increases.
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This! I went from 1.2 litre clio 75bhp to a 3 litre ST220 with 226bhp. My point being there aren't rules in regard to engine size choice, I'd have been thoroughly upset if I'd bought the 116i I was looking at, the power would have felt underwhelming in a few weeks.
 
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Yea but most people who need to ask the internet about 1.6 litre BMW's do not need a fast car. They are not into fast cars and their idea of a fast car is their mates Golf TDI which 'really flies'. Therefore why saddle themselves with huge running costs for no benefit?
 
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