Student kills intruder with samurai sword

[Nexus]

How's about Tony Martin or the dude that stabbed some burglar like 20-30 times on the stairs somewhere in London!
Both were convicted as they could not prove that they were cornered and genuinely in fear for their life , or in the second case extreme excessive force was used as well as not being cornered!!
Rightly so as well, they were not defending themselves but instead handing out their own form of vigilante 'justice' which cannot be tolerated otherwise there would be complete anarchy.

From some of the posts here it seems some people think that it's acceptable to kill or seriously maim someone for stealing their 'property' Your moral compass's seriously need re-calibrating !!

Yeah, that's what I've been trying to point out.
Even though America seems to be quite tolerant to defending your property.... Unless the thief had a weapon, it's going to look a lot like the student attacked him regardless, as there is no evidence to say the thief lunged at him. (It's not something he just pickup up to use as a makeshift weapon, it's an actual proper weapon)

 

[ljt]

Problem these people have is always ringing the police.

If you kill a burgler, dont call the fuzz, just get rid of the body, its not as if they give the name an address of the people they are going to rob before the go out is it?

Its not quite as easy as that and I'm being flippant, but I dont se the logic in calling someone to come and lock you away for defending your own home.

Thats exactly how I thought too.

Why tell anyone? Even if they get reported as missing, its not that likely the police would be looking around your house as you wouldn't be linked in any way to the burglar....

 

[Amp34]

Seems all a little unnecessary, I think the intruder got the point.

I'd have thought that would be justifiable self defence even in the UK. I think the caveat here is that you can't "defend yourself" if they're facing away from you (the implication being that they're running away). But being lunged at is certainly grounds to use reasonable force. In this case, reasonable == lethal.

I think everyone thinks of Tony Martin when they think of the "You wouldn't get away with it in the UK", problem is he shot the intruder in the back with a shotgun as he was running away...

 

[RDM]

I think everyone thinks of Tony Martin when they think of the "You wouldn't get away with it in the UK", problem is he shot the intruder in the back with a shotgun as he was running away...

Didn't he also leave him to die after shooting him? Not calling the police for some time after?

 

[Azagoth]

I think everyone thinks of Tony Martin when they think of the "You wouldn't get away with it in the UK", problem is he shot the intruder in the back with a shotgun as he was running away...

He lives on a farm which is, for all intents and purposes, in the middle of nowhere. After the first thieving ***** was dead he should have just finished the other **** off and just buried their corpses down a 15' hole in the middle of a field.

Now seriously, do you think anyone would have been any the wiser if he'd have done that? The ****** wouldn't have reported anyone missing as what are they going to say, "Yes officer, they went out on the rob somewhere in Norfolk and haven't returned"?

 

[DailyGeek]

He must have lunged from quite a distance. I'd imagine you need a reasonable amount of room to swing a katana with enough momentum to nearly sever a hand. They aren't exactly easy to use in a confined area or if the intruder is right in your face.

Although fair enough, thats the risk you take being a thieving *****.

 

[JBuk]

I was once burgled by an actual samurai, we had a quick sword fight before he fled

 

[NickK]

Hmm a lunge verses cleaving. Something doesn't add up.

In my view: if you lunge at someone with a sword usually that results in a pieced wound. You only get a cleaving wound on a downward thrust when attacking or counter attacking.

So I call this to be fishy!

 

[bledd]

gentlemen, you should arm yourselfs with one of these.

http://www.dansdata.com/images/eakus1/eakus1_640.jpg

coolermaster alloy keyboard, very light, and the keys break after about a year, so the only use left for them is a lightweight bedside weapon.

the casing is pretty darn solid.



oh and, "good" etc..


edit. I'd be gutted if someone stole my Playstation, the Playstation 2 can't emulate some games properly, and the Playstation 1 is hard to get hold of now.

 

[Energize]

edit. I'd be gutted if someone stole my Playstation, the Playstation 2 can't emulate some games properly

The PC does though.

 

[Raymond Lin]

I'd have thought that would be justifiable self defence even in the UK. I think the caveat here is that you can't "defend yourself" if they're facing away from you (the implication being that they're running away). But being lunged at is certainly grounds to use reasonable force. In this case, reasonable == lethal.

I do agree that he deserved what he got (personal opinion), as I think you should be able to defend yourself at home.

However, i don't think in the UK, killing someone with a sword is reasonable for being lunged at. If he lunged at you with a big cleaver then that would be different.

 

[^TANK^]

"justifiable self defence?"

Yes

Good thing he doesn't live in the UK.

 

[Energize]

However, i don't think in the UK, killing someone with a sword is reasonable for being lunged at. If he lunged at you with a big cleaver then that would be different.

What's he supposed to do, stand there and be attacked?

 

[Destination]

In the USA yes, although I doubt you'd get away with that here.

Quite true.

In fact, as far as I am aware in the US you have every right to take whatever steps you wish to secure yourself and your family is on your land unannounced and uninvited.

Sounds like he made a nice proper sweep thru with the sword, properly cutting down as the back came back to slice through as effectively as he did.

Bonus points for proper sword usage.

Law here should be changed, intruder in your house at night, they should deserve anything they get.

 

[meghatronic]

What exactly would you be charged with for owning a sword? It isn't yet illegal (give Labour another term or two and I am sure it will be though!).

Sorry, but they are. All curved swords of non Japanese origin, or religious purpose, are banned. It was originally all curved swords, but the martial art community - including myself - seriously objected to legitimate uses. I have many in my flat.

a sword with a curved blade of 50 centimetres or over in length" with one defence being "to show that the weapon in question was made in Japan before 1954 or was made in Japan at any other time according to traditional methods of forging swords."

 

[-TNT-]

Wouldnt say he necessarily got what he deserved, but if you risk breaking into someones home, then its your own fault really.

Id agree with this.

 

[Energize]

Sorry, but they are. All curved swords of non Japanese origin, or religious purpose, are banned. It was originally all curved swords, but the martial art community - including myself - seriously objected to legitimate uses. I have many in my flat.

Why curved swords? Sounds like more Labour doubleplusungoodsense laws.

 

[ali825]

I hopefully he does not get convicted, I mean how would the guy know if he had a weapon, only takes a second to pull out a gun, it a hell of a lot easy to ask question later, it not worth the risk of the burglar killing you or hurting you. Plus these sort of stories will hopeful deter other want to be burglar.
I take the view of some one enters your house it not your fault if you kill someone or injury them they made the choice to come in, it one of the risk you take of being a burglar

 

[Anksy]

Wouldnt say he necessarily got what he deserved, but if you risk breaking into someones home, then its your own fault really.

This.

 

[SGCWill]

Sorry, but they are. All curved swords of non Japanese origin, or religious purpose, are banned. It was originally all curved swords, but the martial art community - including myself - seriously objected to legitimate uses. I have many in my flat.

*All* curved blades are banned from being *sold*; not owned unless they were made using traditional methods (coa to prove it etc.)

You can no longer buy 40 quid cast swords and go on a rampage....

Nevermind the fact you can buy claymores and rapiers and ninja-to etc. ALL japanese/curved sword owners MUST be mad killers and you certainley can't stab someone with the others I mentioned.

It's a ridiculous law made because someone said "Oh my gawd! japanese culture and history is sooo violent and makes everyone crazy! the peace loving europeans never had such bad wars! Think of the children!"

Oh well; I'll just roll over and let the government tell me exactly what to do with the money I have left when they're done with it.

*yeah, that's self defense in the op