If the parents had control of the little *expletive* Then it wouldnt happen in the first place.
So infact I totally agree with your statement there Gackt.
Student kills intruder with samurai sword
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If the parents had control of the little *expletive* Then it wouldnt happen in the first place.
So infact I totally agree with your statement there Gackt.
lol, how can you compare 'stealing' to murder is ridiculous 
Especially when I doubt anyone here myself included can say hand on heart that they have never stole anything be it digital or otherwise !!
So what if his parents were bad, hardly his fault his a kid for christ sake, it's more a failing of society / social services that he has been allowed to be bought up so badly!
Especially when I doubt anyone here myself included can say hand on heart that they have never stole anything be it digital or otherwise !!
So what if his parents were bad, hardly his fault his a kid for christ sake, it's more a failing of society / social services that he has been allowed to be bought up so badly!
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Multiply breaking into someone's house, stealing someone else's property etc.lol, how can you compare 'stealing' to murder is ridiculous
Especially when I doubt anyone here myself included can say hand on heart that they have never stole anything be it digital or otherwise !!
So what if his parents were bad, hardly his fault his a kid for christ sake, it's more a failing of society / social services that he has been allowed to be bought up so badly!
The Jean Valjean argument won't fly here. He did the crime and was punished. It's simple really, if he didn't break in, he wouldn't've been killed.
lol, how can you compare 'stealing' to murder is ridiculous
Especially when I doubt anyone here myself included can say hand on heart that they have never stole anything be it digital or otherwise !!
So what if his parents were bad, hardly his fault his a kid for christ sake, it's more a failing of society / social services that he has been allowed to be bought up so badly!
Go go boil yer head tbh.. The kid deserved it . The only thing he did wrong was not shoot the idiot in the face .. He should never have went to Jail .
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simple, self defence should extend to "on sight", i.e. you shoot an intruder dead immediately without thinking about anything, it doesnt matter what he was going to or planning to do.
the Americans are 100% right about this, yes the ones from Texas
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good on him!
It was dark, how was he to know the ***** **** was only 12? Like I said above, the only mistakes Tony martin made were 1.) Bragging about what he was going to do if he was burgled again, and 2.) not finishing the other ***** off and burying the scum in a deep trench in the centre of a field!
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Good thing about shotgun is all the types of ammo it can take like rocksalt or beanbags. Putting them into two pieces would be my second choice, if only because it makes more mess then just knocking someone off their feet
Thats a lot of effort just for scallys looking for an easy take
Thats a lot of effort just for scallys looking for an easy take
If only the intruder had said "This is the END for you, you gutter-crawling cur!" as he foully lunged at our fearless academic of the high seas...
It would have left student salty sea dog in the perfect position to retort "And I've got a little TIP for you, get the POINT?" as he courageously defended his landlubber friends while they slumbered.
Ho...ho....ho...
Anyway back I got to monkey island...
It would have left student salty sea dog in the perfect position to retort "And I've got a little TIP for you, get the POINT?" as he courageously defended his landlubber friends while they slumbered.
Ho...ho....ho...
Anyway back I got to monkey island...
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thats exactly what they were hounding him about. to be fair i think your missing the point. its flight or fight scenario not lets sit down and think this thing through over a nice cup of tea. the man was scared for the safety of his family and i feel thats why he reacted the way he did. a frenzy of hormones and emotions took control. i think 12 is not much considering.
Exactly and hence why if this occurred in the U.K he would be up on murder or manslaughter charges. And rightly so, people can't start taking the law into their own hands, we have a very good law which states reasonable and appropriate force can be used.
As a general rule, the more extreme the circumstances and the fear felt, the more force you can lawfully use in self-defence and get away with.
Would you rather him tell the thief to wait while he fetched a more appropriate weapon?
If I stick my finger in a meat grinder, I can hardly blame the manufacturer when my finger gets chopped off. Same with Burglars. If they weren't there in the first place, they wouldn't get shot/stabbed/beaten. Simples.
Its a farce that in UK you cant defend your property.
What’s with this attitude that we should bend over & take it.
If some one breaks into my house I should have the right to take whatever means I deem necessary to defend myself.
And if that ends up killing the intruder well my roses will be growing very well next year.
What’s with this attitude that we should bend over & take it.
If some one breaks into my house I should have the right to take whatever means I deem necessary to defend myself.
And if that ends up killing the intruder well my roses will be growing very well next year.
what are you basing this on?
repeatedly people have used extreme and even deadly force and not gone to jail.
What's reported is that they were arrested, which is just due process, unless you want the police to be judge and jury.
Without ESP the defender can never know what an attackers intentions are or what weapons they may be carrying, thus carrying a lethal weapon and using lethal force is always justified in such a situation. Imprisoning someone who killed in such circumstances is also pointless, it doesn't serve justice, the defendant is not a danger to the public and was in fear of their life. Luckily a jury protects against such flaws in the law and the overzealous CPS by always returning a not guilty verdict, in practice lethal force is considered reasonable in a home invasion.
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Swap the O for a 0 to get BBC Story.
And stabbing someone in the back doesn't prima facie suggest they constituted a direct threat at the time of the attack - of course that is merely a rebuttable presumption but the court (who did or should have had access to all the facts) determined that it was beyond what could be considered self defence.Are you possibly getting confused between the stories? The Student took one swipe apparantly and Mr Hastings was the one who stabbed the burglar twelve times.
I hope you are trying to be ironic with that because otherwise it is almost nothing like that case except that it involves people killing intruders.