ps3 on watchdog next week!

Personally, think the whole report should have been armed to help consumers get a replacement console after the year warranty has expired due to a defective console design meaning that they fail due to no fault of the customer.... Potentially I might add.

Watchdog report has done nothing; Sony will still charge £128 to replace a console that has failed unless you start to fight for a freebie, if you're lucky...

Its not a PS3 owners fault that the console fails for any number of reasons, unless the owner mistreats the console.....

Even if it is 0.5% of UK models that fail, I'm sure that figure is massaged in some way.. Not that I don’t trust Sony, but they’ve been know in the past to *cough* tell the odd porky or two....

Sony have been known for some rather dodgy PR in the past, both Watchdog and Sony have failed to address the issue with a yellow light on the console rendering the unit ‘not fit for purpose’..Sony has an inherent manufacturing defect on one of its products, Watchdog failed to actually give a good report to protect or advise consumers on a method to obtain a replacement without charge for this issue, Sony failed to offer any compensation to the consumer and therefore anyone who has a Sony PS3 could face a £128 bill anytime once the 1 year warranty is up.

Both is equally un-acceptable, a potential failing console after 12 months, and no recompense to the consumer if said product does actually fail from Sony.

And I am a PS3 owner, now on my third PS3.
 
remember if the product is inherrently faulty its the retailer you should be speaking, to not sony.

might have more luck that way, especially now its been on watchdog even the tripe it was. and if enough stores end up having to replace too many consoles then that will directly put pressure on sony.
 
Has anyone tried invoking the EU Two year warranty law yet and had any success ?

"A two-year guarantee applies for the sale of all consumer goods everywhere in the EU. In some countries, this may be more, and some manufacturers also choose to offer a longer warranty period.'

As with UK law, a seller is not bound by the guarantee 'if the (fault) has its origin in materials supplied by the consumer'. But the EU rule does not require the buyer to show the fault is inherent in the product and not down to their actions.

The EU rule also says buyers need to report a problem within two months of discovering it if they want to be covered under the rule."
 
After reading the SCEUK letter from here
http://www.gmrfm.com/home/2009/9/17/sonys-letter-to-bbcs-watchdog.html

I absolutely hope with all my heart that Sony come down like a ton of bricks onto the BBC. It's absolute unfounded nonescence where even the guy testing says he can't say for sure there is a fault.

Utter tripe, Watchdog and the BBC has suddenly turned into the Daily Mail.

Just blame it on the Muslim Gays and say Labour are also to fault.

Agree 100%. That letter is well thought out, stats FACTS and defends against the pile of turd that is Watchdog.
 
What i want to know is where i can get one of those re flow solder ovens from, as those self console repair agents are nothing more then glorified strip down n00b's and i want in on that.

All they did was take it apart, clean and re paste, bake and rebuild.
 
you're about 2 years too late to get in on the action as the 360 RROD has everyone doing EXACTLY the same thing - even bennett "fixes" 360s now.

Why get a specialist oven when you can just use your own with the towel trick? Best to keep your overheads down.
 
you're about 2 years too late to get in on the action as the 360 RROD has everyone doing EXACTLY the same thing - even bennett "fixes" 360s now.

Why get a specialist oven when you can just use your own with the towel trick? Best to keep your overheads down.

Or a heat gun and shield, it's what we used at work. ;)
 
did'nt understand why watchdog reported this so called problem , it sounded like they were referring to the first edition ps3's , but sony have released newer editions since then with bigger hardrives and thus possibly fixed any minor problems so why do a report ? , not just that they have also just released a slim version:confused:

did they even speak to sony?
 
0.5% failure rate proves that it ISNT inherrantly faulty


shambles of a report and glad to read SCEE kicked *** with that letter

Indeed. Most companies would be happy with a <1.5% reject rate :o

2.5 Million @ 0.5% reject = 12,500 faulty PS3s
 
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you're about 2 years too late to get in on the action as the 360 RROD has everyone doing EXACTLY the same thing - even bennett "fixes" 360s now.

Why get a specialist oven when you can just use your own with the towel trick? Best to keep your overheads down.

shup chewie you turd, fixing xbox's is easy but there are still plenty of people out there that want to pay someone else to do it :P
 
Interesting letter to the BBc from thesixthaxis
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/18/an-open-letter-to-bbc-complaints/
Those of you that saw the BBC One show “Watchdog” yesterday will have seen the report on the PlayStation 3’s “Yellow Light of Death” issues. I watched it twice and was inspired, for the first time in my life, to write a complaint letter to a media outlet. This is that letter, published here but also on it’s way this morning (via proper post, if the postal service isn’t on strike again) to the BBC complaints department in Glasgow. If you were annoyed by the report for any sensible reason then I strongly urge you to do the same. The Television Licence Fee which funds the BBC now costs £147.50 per year which isn’t cheap in these hard times. What follows is the full transcript of my complaint letter and is obviously my personal opinion rather than the official stance of TheSixthAxis.

To Whom It May Concern,

I wish to address the most recent episode of the BBC’s consumer affairs programme Watchdog (original broadcast date of 17 Sept 2009). In the episode there was a report concerning the Sony PlayStation 3 and the recent issues which have been widely reported by consumers concerning the “Yellow Light of Death” (YLoD).

I work as a blogging Editor within the gaming industry for a website which prides itself on accuracy and fairness. We report on the issues affecting gamers in the UK and Europe and have seen numerous reports of the so called YLoD. I believe that the problem is becoming widespread (chiefly, I believe, among launch consoles) and serious enough to warrant further investigation.

The news that Watchdog would be featuring such an investigation was welcome and I looked forward to the broadcast. I even read the published six-page letter that Sony Computer Entertainment UK (SCEUK) sent to the program to register their dissatisfaction at the way Watchdog had been handling the issue. This was, I believed, a big issue and it would be interesting to see how the BBC (a source I have always had the utmost respect for) would deal with it. Finally, I thought, a unifying voice that will be loud enough to demand action, or at least dialogue, from Sony.

So it was with a rapidly growing sense of disappointment that I watched the report. I am not a current affairs editor or producer with the BBC and I’m sure that our collective license fees pay far more experienced people to make these decisions so I am willing to admit that I may be wrong with my next sentiment. It’s just that I think starting a report by stating that the comedian you have hired may be biased as he works for the main competitor of the product might taint your report’s attempt to appear unbiased. Surely it would have been more appropriate to hire a reporter who might have had, at the very least, the appearance of an unbiased viewpoint?

In the interests of expediency I would like to avoid a detailed breakdown of all the errors in your report (although, if required, I will provide those at a later date) and instead discuss the generalities of the way you failed the consumers you proclaim to champion.

Firstly, you didn’t actually address what the problem was. There was no indication of why the problem occurred, no discussion of which models it was being reported for and no information regarding possible preventative measures. These are all things which would be invaluable to the consumers.

Secondly, you failed to mention that your “free” fix wasn’t actually free. Even if those engineers carried out your kerbside repairs without invoicing the BBC (which I sincerely doubt) they do not carry the repairs out for free to the general public. Most of those independent engineers will charge almost as much as Sony for repairs and the Sony repair comes with a short (but nevertheless useful) warranty period. This warranty period would be especially useful since, as you briefly mentioned in the report, the kerbside repairs carried out by Watchdog had a shocking failure rate themselves.

I’m sure your consumer group are glad they didn’t pay for the fleeting repairs and perhaps a little annoyed that the integrity of their system has been compromised by a third party meaning that any future (and once again necessary) repairs carried out by Sony will, most likely, now be un-guaranteed and more expensive.

So, to conclude, you screened a report with very little factual information, partially fronted by a comedian/presenter with a proclaimed (and seemingly jovially celebrated) bias against the product. You spent (I presume but would love to be corrected) licence-payer’s money on badly carried out repairs to assist in your almost comedic take on a problem which I believe deserved more respect. You then skimmed over a six-page letter from SCEUK, summarising their lengthy (and apparently warranted) misgivings about the way you were handling the issue, in a few smirking sentences.

It seems to me that the only responsible and valuable thing to come out of the report was the brief request for more people to come forward if they experience the problem. Perhaps if you had made this request before recording the laughable report you would have had a weight of evidence to confront Sony with instead of a comedy stunt outside their offices. Perhaps if you had hired an extra researcher or two to investigate the issues instead of a presenter with an admitted bias to mock it you would have been able to get someone from Sony on the show to answer the complaints of the consumers.

I feel that you have failed at every turn with this issue and the way our licence fees were used to fund it. I wish to register my immense dissatisfaction with the team involved and the BBC itself for broadcasting such a pathetic attempt at consumer affairs journalism.

As if the poorly conceived, badly executed and embarrassingly vague report wasn’t bad enough you then closed out the report with an awful comedy song. I’m a fan of gaming and a fan of Johnny Cash so my opinion may lose some objectivity here but it pains me to think that public money is paying for that am-dram drivel.

Sincerely,

Peter Chapman
 
Not a PS3 owner, in fact very much a 360 user and think Sony dropped the ball with the PS3 launch and lost me as a customer, but WTF are the BBC on?

What a load of drivel.
 
Why might the fix fail after such a short time? Surely if the solder connections have all been reflowed, it's good as new?
 
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