Sudden enlightenment and realisation of death...

And the other option is even worse, image a world where you could spend centuries with a partner and never experience the joy of having children with them.

It's a good point. I know a few Christian women who are very much into the whole mothering thing. Some of them find the idea of an eternity without new babies rather distressing.

I expect to be too busy to worry about it. A likely outcome of effectively being heirs of the creator might be to do some creating ourselves (I say 'might' as it's speculation that's outside the realms of more orthodox Christian theology). I certainly expect eternal life to be very different from life now anyway.

Edit: The other thing that is expected is a fundamental change in human nature. There are plenty of unanswered questions though. No mater whether a person's basis for believing in Jesus is reasoned or unreasoned an element of faith, trust or mystery has to appear somewhere down the line. Personally, the idea that God is actively deceptive seems more likely to me than of him not existing. I choose to trust him. I am aware of some of the implications of me being wrong. After the death of his wife, CS Lewis's doubt was not on the existence of God but on whether he was indeed genuinely good.
 
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Lol

If I'm honest, I'm pretty scared about dying - particularly painful death. Afterwards who knows, not too much I can do about that.

Dont worry I red recently in 20 years time we will all be immortal via some new medical break through.

I suppose the only way we can die then is by having our heads cut off, I think there was a term for it "The quickening" I believe it was.

Hang on a minute ...
 
I don't mind dying, just how I die matters most. Hopefully I'll just pass away peacefully and then be buried along with John Carmack's autographed copy of Doom 23 placed in my coffin, lol :D
 
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Have you taken a second recently to think about what you believe will happen? I like to think it makes you appreciate things and try to fulfill life a little more.

Yes, and I feel perfectly fine in saying it scares the living **** out of me.

The idea of just...nothing...but not even knowing its nothing...eugh its horrible.
 
Im a Man of Science, and if some of you are also Science believers reading all this stuff about God is very funny and makes NO sense at all from people who think science is the answer.

Theres no proof or anything that there is a higher being, and that heaven and hell exist, at the end of the day there words which people made up once and stories which were passed down until now which could go back 1000's of years.

At the end of the day less and less people are believing in God, or a higher being. And Science is becoming closer and closer to finding out what really happened..

The big question is what will happen once we(Science believers) find the PROOF and evidence that there was no GOD and the big bang theory is true. because thats closer than we think.

what will happen to the rest of you of all religions who think theres a God? Carry on thinking God is real even tho hes not there after its been proven??

This makes no sense. God is fundamentally impossible to disprove. Big bang theory and a god could both exist at the same time as well. (I'm not religious btw)
 
I find the idea of my concious ceasing to exist so frightening that I almost refuse to believe that such an event will occur. In a very odd way, when I cease to exist, everybody else ceases to exist too.

I my ultimate lack of purpose to make about as much sense as 'infinity' - my mind can't comprehend either, which is making me increasingly open minded towards faith based ideas.
 
Not wanting to take this conversation too off-course. But I mentioned something in another post similar a while back that wasn't answered, and it hurts my brain to think about still.

Trying to relate it to this thread. Lets say, before you died you got cloned. This clone was identical to you both physically and mentally (accelerated growth or something). You then died. Who would that clone be? Who would ultimately be controlling it? 'You' would be dead so it wouldn't be you, but if it's an exact replica of you then what makes it a separate entity to you?

Can someone put me out my misery and try to explain it?
 
Had the feeling once or twice, usually pass's after a few minutes of other thoughts.
Although i remember attempting to work out what nothing was when i was a kid :D

What is nothing, would it just be black or white? with mass's of space?
But there wouldn't even be that. emptiness. haha.

Very hard to explain as its quite stupid and no real frame of mind but once you go there its mind boggling.
 
Not wanting to take this conversation too off-course. But I mentioned something in another post similar a while back that wasn't answered, and it hurts my brain to think about still.

Trying to relate it to this thread. Lets say, before you died you got cloned. This clone was identical to you both physically and mentally (accelerated growth or something). You then died. Who would that clone be? Who would ultimately be controlling it? 'You' would be dead so it wouldn't be you, but if it's an exact replica of you then what makes it a separate entity to you?

Can someone put me out my misery and try to explain it?

It would be like splitting yourself into two time lines. The concious up until the 'cloning' would be transferred to the new body. After that point, there would be two separate consciousnesses - the same as there being two completely separate individuals that simply share the same memories until the cloning event.

All hypothetical and in the spirit of fun of course :)
 
everyone should live life by the hit rap song by nas :p
nas said:
lifes a **** and then you die
thats why we get high
because you never know
when your gunna go

just take 'getting high' as having good/high times , making the most out of your life that you can. its all we can do. i guess the scary part is having no control over when we go

i used to think about it a lot but then eventually realised death isnt even worth thinking about . best thing to do is live for now and for the things that you do have control over.
 
It would be like splitting yourself into two time lines. The concious up until the 'cloning' would be transferred to the new body. After that point, there would be two separate consciousnesses - the same as there being two completely separate individuals that simply share the same memories until the cloning event.

All hypothetical and in the spirit of fun of course :)

Thats why clones would never work, to other people it probably wouldnt make a difference, as they may never notice, but realistically it wouldn't be you.
 
Hmm, I just get on in life and accept what happens as it comes along... I do stuff that could kill me if I made the slightest of mistakes everyday! Do I bat an eye lid? No...

If I go, oh well, I had a great time, those who love me should know me well enough that I would hate for them to grieve over my perma afk.

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Thats why clones would never work, to other people it probably wouldnt make a difference, as they may never notice, but realistically it wouldn't be you.

I don't really understand what you mean, but there is a scene representing my description in the film the 6th day, where the bad guy clones himself as he is dying and the clone instantly takes all of the originals clones.

"You're not even going to wait for me to die?"
"Would you?"
 
I don't really understand what you mean, but there is a scene representing my description in the film the 6th day, where the bad guy clones himself as he is dying and the clone instantly takes all of the originals clones.

"You're not even going to wait for me to die?"
"Would you?"

My bad i'm a little tired..

I mean in the sense as others have said, it would be a copy of your self.
You would still have all the same personality, same traits, same habits and to others, such as family and friends i doubt they'd notice.

But whilst the original being were alive, and the clone was being created, or what ever you wanna call it, the clone would miss this experience but gain another by being born, what half way through his life, although he would have all the same memories from the past, would this experience, not effect nor change who is he.


I'm very tired so ill be surprised if that makes an sense what so ever..
 
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