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ATI already won next gen Xbox deal

3d is going to be the next "big" thing though. Sky are already trying out their 3d television so expect Sky 3d boxes out soon.

I guess at least the ps3 or xbox will be 3d as well (or perhaps both)

As being said, once people have high refresh hd 3d capable tv's then that will be the time to launch.
 
Lol at that BS comment of it being released in 2010 no company in their right mind would release an xbox/ps3 unless their target audience (us) has a mainstream TV which is nextgen.

The ps4/720 should be 3D when it's realised so it will be interesting.

The release of the ps4/720 will be around 2014 if your lucky and will most likely be the last console to be developed, ofc there will probley be upgraded versions of current gen consoles die shrinked + a few more features but thats about it.

Not suprised ATI won the Xbox deal, Nvidia need to up their game.

And I think the RROD failures was obviously a combination of 90NM GPUS + Microsoft creating their own PCB version of the GPU which envitabley led to overheating which made the solder from the GPU to the Motherboard warp and disconnect.

What's a 720?
 
Are we going to see the first dedicated graphics card in a console rather than a chip on the same motherboard?

I doubt that'll ever happen. It's more cost and space efficient to have everything on one board.

Also, I think ATi likely will get the next Xbox console, apparently Microsoft and Nvidia's relationship in terms of console hardware is not particularly good.

Microsoft's decision to go with ATI, which is based in Toronto, is not a huge surprise considering the tenuous ties between Nvidia and the software company. The two were at odds with each other over the pricing of Nvidia's chips, avoiding a certain bitter court battle through an arbitration hearing earlier this year.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/08/15/BU190365.DTL#ixzz0TpyRbIQ8
- that's based on the 360/Xenos deal
... Nice bit of stealth copypaste javascript on that page.
 
Good to see I can keep up with the console specs :)

Spoken as someone who went from a Dreamcast to a Wii :p

Why wouldn't Sony stick with the Cell tech for their chips?
 
Another 3 years for a new console :(
+1

It's About time they released a console that can run games at the same res as most TV's (1080P) are now days..
Instead of having 98% of console games having to be scaled to your screen res :mad:

Like who would want to run there PC games at 1280x720 on a 1080P TV/monitor in this day & age :p
 
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Good if there was a slot to add in more ram on xbox and ps3,

u could add in better textures and more AA in games that would keep them going long.
 
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I doubt either the 360 or PS3 will be replaced within the next 3 years. I think the Nintendo's Wii has taught Misco$oft and $ony that content is more important than "cutting edge". Why spend billions developing the most powerful console in the world when most people prefer good games to pretty games? Sure 1080P gaming would be nice, but most people will not be willing to shell out another £300 to £400 to get it.

Hopefully game makers are telling the Wii and Nintendo where to shove it.

The problem is, Nintendo made a killing for THEMSELVES on the hardware, some games are selling well, sure, but lets be honest 98% of the best games being released are on the "real" consoles. I know dozens, and dozens, upon dozens of people with a Wii who never ever play it. ALl those same people have another console and play it all the time.

Dev's don't like the Wii, and game makers aren't making tonnes of cash. MS and Sony may short term and maybe even long term lose money on the hardware, and it may sell less being more expensive, but all the companies that make games for the 360/ps3, make millions a year, they love the consoles, overall those consoles being up to date generate a heck of a lot more total revenue than Nintendo manages to make itself.


If the Wii had "pretty good games" that might be a different issue, if you want to play stupid tennis with your mum when you visit her or jump around like a drunk fool playing golf, fine, but gamers, use a real console.

Theres a point where console gamers see their friends PC games and think WTF, I just played that on my 360, it looks like ass, at which Sony/MS release a new console.

Even easier for them, they went multi cpu, they really don't need much more power except bigger hdd's as standard that are faster, marginal Cpu upgrade, far more powerful gpu.


Wasn't the rumour for a while now that ATi have Nintendo's next project and Sony supposedly want to use Intel for graphics, or maybe ATi, just really they aren't interested in Nvidia who they hate. Everyone seems to hate working with Nvidia, Intel, amd/ati obviously, Sony, MS, all their partners, people that pay Nvidia for their work, hate them, people Nvidia pay stacks of cash to support their hardware, don't mind them. Not the best way to run a company.

The mere fact that Sony are considering an unreleased Larabee over Nvidia should be a clear indication of their relationship.
 
Microsoft in 2012 maybe, but what happened to Sonys 10 year plan?

Nothing, its still in place.

Sony touted the 10 year plan for the PS2, its still going isn't it? 9th year? They brought out the PS3 in that time.

When they give their products a "10 year plan" they just mean they will continue supporting that product for 10 years, doesn't mean they won't bring out a newer console within that 10 years.
 
Hopefully game makers are telling the Wii and Nintendo where to shove it.

The problem is, Nintendo made a killing for THEMSELVES on the hardware, some games are selling well, sure, but lets be honest 98% of the best games being released are on the "real" consoles. I know dozens, and dozens, upon dozens of people with a Wii who never ever play it. ALl those same people have another console and play it all the time.
Two words. Sales figures.

Hardware Sales

Wii – 679k
Nintendo DS – 511k
Xbox 360 – 309k
PlayStation 3 – 203k
PSP – 172k
PlayStation 2 – 101k

Software Sales

Wii Fit (Wii) – 777k
Wii Play (Wii) – 415k
Mario Kart (Wii) – 292k
Left 4 Dead (360) – 243k
Call of Duty: World at War (360) – 235k
Skate 2 (360) – 199k
Guitar Hero World Tour (Wii) – 155k
New Super Mario Bros (NDS) – 135k
Mario Kart (NDS) – 132k
Lord of the Rings: Conquest (360) – 113k

Game makers would rather be in bed with Nintendo than Sony or Microsoft because i). There is a (MUCH) larger target audience. There are more Wii's than any other console and Wii owners buy more games than respective PS3 or 360 owners. ii). It is the easiest console to develop games for.

I personally own a PS3 (so no Wii bias), but I am sure both Sony and M$ would happily trade their technological advantages for Nitendo's sales and profit figures. A classi case of David beating two Goliaths, and then stealing his girlfriend for good measure.

As Darth Vader once said to the CEO's of MS and Sony - "Don't be too proud of these technological terrors you've constructed. Their ability to rendor games is insignificant next to the selling power of the Wii".
 
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As Darth Vader once said to the CEO's of MS and Sony - "Don't be too proud of these technological terrors you've constructed. Their ability to render games is insignificant next to the selling power of the Wii".



Hahaha love it.
Throw in a good case of the Nintendo SNES facing up a Sony PS to have it shouted "'you killed my father!!!', to which the SNES replies (whilst waving its oh so familiar joypad like a lightsaber)...'No. I AM YOUR FATHER!"

Sorry had to be done :D
 
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