Front LED lights on newer Audi's

They're only working as a safety thing at the moment because not all cars have them.

Once all cars have them, then there won't be the advantage of having them.

Much like rear high level brake lights - it was reported when they first were introduced that it was directly attributed to lowering the number of accidents, but the advantages since then have diminished.
 
On the new Audis BMWs etc can you actually turn the new style LEDs off?

Wouldn't being able to turn them off defeat the whole purpose of them? Can you turn the side running lights off in Volvos?

yes you can turn them off..they are standard on the new skoda octavia vRS now..it becoming eu law or some such in 2011 that all new cars will have to have them

you can turn them on and off using the maxi-dot multi function display on the skoda (probably called somethign else on the audi and vw), you can also turn on and off other functiosn such as the auto locking doors once you reach a certain spped and coming home/leaving home functions on the lights
 
my 2005 a4 instruction manual has an area regarding them (assume they were an option possibly in europe or somewhere never seen them on the 05>08 a4) and there is a switch next to the headlight switch to turn them on off/dim etc.
Regards
Andy
 
my 2005 a4 instruction manual has an area regarding them (assume they were an option possibly in europe or somewhere never seen them on the 05>08 a4) and there is a switch next to the headlight switch to turn them on off/dim etc.
Regards
Andy

B7 A4's (not sure if all years do) have daytime running lights don't they? Its just a regular sidelight type one rather than a strip of leds. Certainly notice a few of that shape driving round with their sidelights on during the day if not.
 
tbh they are very useful.. and if they were on all the time i would not complain.. as a cyclist i like them..
 
I don't know about other Audis but when we had our 06 A3 DRL's were only fitted to cars equiped with bi-xenon lights and the DRL was a normal light bulb on the inside reflector. Halogen equiped cars didn't have the switch for them and i think the inside reflector was used for high beam. That may have changed when the facelift came out.
 
I am going to run with mine on all the time now, not for safety reasons but to remind other road users in inferior cars that I am better than them and they should move out of my way.
 
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I am going to run with mine on all the time now, not for safety reasons but to remind other road users in inferior cars that I am better than them and they should move out of my way.

:D
 
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I am going to run with mine on all the time now, not for safety reasons but to remind other road users in inferior cars that I am better than them and they should move out of my way.

Even works in a Skoda :D
 
lights on in the day just makes motorbikes even more invisible imo.

B@

This. 100 times this. I'm not even a biker!

DRLs do make your car safer but only so long as your car stands out more than everybody else's. This is why Volvos have historically had an advantage.

When one state in the US switched to requiring DRLs on all cars (and older cars to turn their sidelights on) they found no change in the total number of car crashes, but the number of Volvos involved in crashes rose to a level closer to the number of them on the road.

So what is the person who wants to stand out more for safety reasons going to do next? Brighter DRLs of course, it's going to turn into a bloody arms race.

Meanwhile motorbikes (who tend to run DRLs anyway) and pedestrians (who almost never have DRLs) are now harder to see.

So DRLs give a visibility advantage to cars, the type of vehicle whose occupants are least likely to be KSI'd (lets ignore vans and HGVs for now) and a visibility disadvantage to two-wheeled road users and pedestrians despite them being much more likely to suffer a KSI in the event of a collision.

Anyone who voluntarily* uses DRLs is, IMO, being a bit of a selfish ****. Give the more vulnerable road users a chance at being seen, please.

* if there's no way to disable them then fair enough.

On that note, anyone know how to disable the DRLs on a Volvo 940?
 
I tend to agree with some points, the main one is being 'different' than others on the road gets you seen... maybe this will vanish a little once everyone runs them.

Here is a good snippet from a article on running lights for bikes.....


We have all heard and lament that car drivers inevitably argue that they didn't see the motorcycle before the collision occurred. Certain that the real problem is that they were otherwise busy talking on their cell phones or simply not paying attention, we do not credit that excuse other than with a "Yeah, sure". But what if it's true?

Most motorcyclists have heard the word 'conspicuity'. It means conspicuousness or obviousness. It is a ten-dollar word that turns off most people who hear it, but there is substance behind it. It certainly helps your ability to be seen if you are conspicuous or obvious, though that person on the cell phone still might not notice you, and even if they do, they may not be able to recognize what they are seeing.

When you hear the word 'conspicuity' you probably think 'light colored clothes'. Yep, that can certainly help - when the sun is shining. But I suggest that at night you are FAR better off having reflective strips of some kind on your jacket/helmet/motorcycle than if you are wearing a light colored jacket as opposed to black. Those reflective strips or patches should be across your upper back and on your shoulders (facing to either side) for best effect.

And why is it that we tend to think of the person who is ahead of us needing to see us more than the person behind or from the side? The truth is, it doesn't matter where 'they' are, they MUST be able to see you and recognize you for what you are.

Curiously, despite the natural desire to be seen by drivers coming toward us, when motorcyclists think about adding some lights to their rigs they think about rear facing lights first. They add bigger, brighter, brake lights and even modulated lights to aid those who are behind them. I say curiously because most threats to a motorcyclist are in front of your motorcycle, not behind.

Many years ago the railroad industry determined that the most conspicuous lighting arrangement, and safest, was to have a triangle of forward facing lights, the largest, brightest light at the top and two slightly smaller/dimmer lights mounted horizontally below it. This configuration had benefits that might not be immediately obvious. Most notably, when a train is moving toward you the two bottom lights appear to get farther apart. Thus, you not only recognize the lights as coming from a train, but you can tell if it is moving toward you, and you can even estimate at what speed.

A motorcycle can have exactly the same lighting advantage. If you mount running lights below your headlight you have created that magic triangle. When seen from the front you no longer look like a far distant car. Since nobody expects to see a train coming toward them on a public road, you are recognized for being 'something else' - indeed, almost certainly a motorcycle."


The difference thing is so so important, especially to a bike... thats why I've just fitted Modulators front and back on my bike as I'm getting sick of being missed tbh :( (

I'm running with 4 modulated running lights (92.5% on 7.5% off), 2 uprated sidelights, modulated brake (10Hz), enhanced rear LED cluster, 6k hid conversion and high wattage main upgrade....bike already is looking quite UFO like, but with winter on the way it will help a lot.
 
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Only because they all seem to insist on having super bright lights, pointed right into car drivers eyes

i assume you'd prefer the alternative option of splattering them over your bonnet? ;)

I think you'll find the majority of people disagree with you here. I'm a fan of Audis but their running lights look rubbish.
quite, they lower their brand image.

B@
 
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I see a silver R8 with them every day and that's all you can see till it's 10m away, even in daylight. They're way too bright.
 
They're only working as a safety thing at the moment because not all cars have them.

Once all cars have them, then there won't be the advantage of having them.

Much like rear high level brake lights - it was reported when they first were introduced that it was directly attributed to lowering the number of accidents, but the advantages since then have diminished.

High level brake lights have a whole bunch of benefits most of which aren't affected by the number of vehicles fitted with them.

Main one is that as the light is completely separate from the other light clusters, and doesn't get used for anything other than braking, it is very obvious that the brakes have been applied. This actually decreases the reaction time to respond to another vehicle slowing.
 
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