The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

[Hitman_Leon]

On the other hand, it does perhaps give a clue as to why he feels so uncomfortable about homosexuality

He must have forgot lube and then the BBC would not let him have his donut cushion on the QT seats,

Makes so much sense now, he was not uncomfortable, the poor dear was in pain,

 

[Angilion]

How lucky the British people are that they have the good old BBC to decide what we can and can't hear. They decide to censor Nick Griffin's reply because they've decided it casts him in too favourable a light. Blatant, unapologetic Stalinist/Nazi style censorship.

His reply was a lie. I can say that confidently because his own party's constitution proves that it's a lie.

Nick Griffin's mission in life is to con as many people as possible into believing an entirely fictional view of the BNP. He has achieved some success because few people bother checking. He doesn't even need to go very far in the deceit - the real positions of the BNP on various issues aren't hidden because he's confident that hardly anyone will check what they are. So he's free to lie about them in public, and does so repeatedly.

Maybe we should deport him because his ancestors were not indigenous to Great Britain.

 

[dirtydog]

One in five 'would consider voting BNP' after Nick Griffin Question Time appearance


The YouGov poll was taken hours after Mr Griffin’s appearance on Thursday, before which anti-fascist protesters rioted outside BBC Television Centre in London.

The survey found that 22 per cent of voters would “seriously consider” voting for the BNP in a future local, general or European election. This included four per cent who said they would “definitely” consider voting for the party, three per cent who would “probably” consider it, and 15 per cent who said they were “possible” BNP voters.

More than half of those questioned said they agreed with the BNP, or thought that it “had a point” in wishing to “speak up for the interests of the indigenous, white British people ... which successive governments have done far too little to protect.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...06/One-in-four-would-consider-voting-BNP.html

 

[Vonhelmet]

Yes Straw is a hypocrite. However, he and Nick are both wrong for different reasons i.e. Griffin made a good point about Straw and the invasions into Muslim countries.

Islam is no less a "nice" religion than Christianity is, its just that you want to keep religion and state seperate. I don't want a Christian Britain and I don't want a Muslim Britain, I just want a Britain where you're free to practice any religion and are free from religion. A Christian Britain (what Nick wants) does not allow people to be free from religion and it doesn't allow freedom of religion.

Also, you're wrong for connecting religion to the veil.

Griffin's Britain would not be a Christian Britain. Not unless he intends to have Leviticus 19:33-34 removed from the Bible.

 

[Mr Jones]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...n-four[/COLOR]-would-consider-voting-BNP.html

I'm always very wary when it comes to statistics; 1 in 5 would consider? (see link above) How many people were actually asked, where was this done and how long was the question done (e.g. 6 hours between 12am and 6am, when only the most active of users would answer an online survey?)

Take it with a pinch of salt. I'll wait for the Election before deciding what I think of the public.

 

[Chimerical]

Griffin's Britain would not be a Christian Britain. Not unless he intends to have Leviticus 19:33-34 removed from the Bible.

Searching brought this up...

Leviticus 19:33-34

When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

Well, Griffin is obviously in contradiction with those kind of values but he said he wants a Christian Britain or to keep it that way. That doesn't mean his interpretation of Christianity is correct though.

Although I doubt he himself is much of a Christian and probably doesn't practice it at all. He most likely hasn't even read the Bible. Maybe that's why DD (an atheist) lets him off on that one.

I didn't mean to come across as anti-religion previously of course.

 

[Dolph]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...06/One-in-four-would-consider-voting-BNP.html

I find this quote much more reassuring.

Two-thirds said they would not consider voting for the party “under any circumstances” with the rest unsure.

To put an alternative spin on it, you've got 66% refusing outright to vote for them, another 15% who will only 'possibly consider' it, which is hardly a ringing endorsement, so let's put those two together (as they lumped all the three who didn't reject the BNP outright) and you get 81% of the public who are very unlikely to vote for the BNP.

I can also quote this line, which shows just how much of a fringe party they really are...

YouGov found that overall voter support for the party had risen from two to three per cent since last month.

Hardly the ringing endorsement you were claiming when you look at the full article...

 

[Raumarik]

BNP and their supporters need their heads looked at, spreading hatred and intolerance to get power, sounds awful familiar.

Oh no wait, lets just deny it ever happened..

 

[dirtydog]

Peter Hain says his fears have been proved right after a poll suggested support for the BNP has risen after Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time.

A YouGov poll in the Daily Telegraph suggests 22% of people questioned would "seriously consider" voting BNP.

The Welsh secretary said: "The BBC has handed the BNP the gift of the century on a plate and now we see the consequences. I'm very angry."

Good!

More than half of those polled said they agreed or thought the party had a point in speaking up for the interests of indigenous, white British people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8323638.stm

As I have often said, it isn't just BNP voters who identify with at least some of what the BNP says. And this is more proof of that. Which is more proof that the 99% hostile audience was not in any way representative of the population at large.

 

[Indie]

totally missed Question Time.. so gutted!
although saw Does It Offend You, Yeah? ... so i think it was well worth it!

 

[Vonhelmet]

Well, Griffin is obviously in contradiction with those kind of values but he said he wants a Christian Britain or to keep it that way. That doesn't mean his interpretation of Christianity is correct though.

The trouble is that Griffin isn't really pro-anything, he's just anti- lots of things. I don't regard that as a particularly tenable point on which to stand for election.

Although I doubt he himself is much of a Christian and probably doesn't practice it at all. He most likely hasn't even read the Bible. Maybe that's why DD (an atheist) lets him off on that one.

Indeed. I can't imagine his Christianity extends beyond the notion that
he was born in a nominally Christian country and must therefore be Christian.

I didn't mean to come across as anti-religion previously of course.

You didn't - you came across as advocating freedom of choice and expression, which would be my second choice after a true theocracy. However, given that a true theocracy won't work until we get to heaven, I'm prepared to settle for freedom of choice for the time being.

 

[dirtydog]

totally missed Question Time.. so gutted!
although saw Does It Offend You, Yeah? ... so i think it was well worth it!

You can still watch Question Time on iplayer if you want...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nft24/Question_Time_22_10_2009/

 

[RDM]

Griffin's Britain would not be a Christian Britain. Not unless he intends to have Leviticus 19:33-34 removed from the Bible.

To be fair using Leviticus as a guide to what Christians should and shouldn't do is pretty shaky ground as I doubt any Christian living follows Leviticus to the letter these days.

 

[Vonhelmet]

To be fair using Leviticus as a guide to what Christians should and shouldn't do is pretty shaky ground as I doubt any Christian living follows Leviticus to the letter these days.

We're not obliged to follow the ceremonial or sacrificial law any more but the principles still hold, and that one is pretty clear.

 

[RDM]

We're not obliged to follow the ceremonial or sacrificial law any more but the principles still hold, and that one is pretty clear.

That is certainly one interpretation.

 

[stockhausen]

Good!
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8323638.stm

Two-thirds of the 1,314 people polled by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph dismissed voting for the [BNP] under any circumstances, with the rest unsure.

When asked how they would vote in an election tomorrow, the proportion supporting the BNP stood at 3%, up from 2% a month ago.

3% support huh?; we shall see, we shall see.

The one good thing about Griffin's appearance on Question Time and Straw's dismal performance is that Straw may get elevated to the Lords and be replaced by someone more in touch with the real world.

 

[r3loaded]

The funniest part of QT is when he got onto the "ice age" bit about who was truly an indigenous Brit. Griffin once stated previously that he could trace his lineage back to William the Conqueror. Yep, that was William of Normandy. Maybe he ought to deport himself back to France?

Anyway, as the saying goes, "Give a man enough rope and he will hang himself with his own noose"

 

[uv]

As I have often said, it isn't just BNP voters who identify with at least some of what the BNP says.

Of course, there's a little bit of every party that I can identify with. It's just that the constitution of the BNP is abhorrent. Whilst I can understand why some people may identify with one or two of their policies, I can't understand why anyone would view the BNP as an electable party when you take into consideration all of their policies and views.

It's like the Green party - I'm all for promoting environmental issues, but it'd be horrific if they were to become the elected party.. they have no real policies regarding education, public services and whatnot.

 

[deuse]

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[uv]

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Whilst I agree that Deutronomy 3 isn't typical in regards to upholding the commandments, the quote you gave isn't in Deutronomy 3