They planned it all along !

I'd say labelling our current immigration policy or lack there of a deliberate act on Labour's part credits them with far too much intelligence if you ask me. Leaving Labour in charge of this country has been akin to letting monkey's play with hand grenades IMHO.

And before I get the shrill chorus of "Tory boy", let it be known that I have no faith in any of our modern politicians.
 
Melanie Phillips:

The outrageous truth slips out: Labour cynically plotted to transform the entire make-up of Britain without telling us


So now the cat is well and truly out of the bag. For years, as the number of immigrants to Britain shot up apparently uncontrollably, the question was how exactly this had happened.

Was it through a fit of absent-mindedness or gross incompetence? Or was it not inadvertent at all, but deliberate?

The latter explanation seemed just too outrageous. After all, a deliberate policy of mass immigration would have amounted to nothing less than an attempt to change the very make-up of this country without telling the electorate.

There could not have been a more grave abuse of the entire democratic process. Now, however, we learn that this is exactly what did happen. The Labour government has been engaged upon a deliberate and secret policy of national cultural sabotage.

Unless policies change, over the next 25 years some seven million more will be added to Britain's population, a rate of growth three times as fast as took place in the Eighties.

Such an increase is simply unsustainable. Britain is already one of the most overcrowded countries in Europe. But now look at the real reason why this policy was introduced, and in secret. The Government's 'driving political purpose', wrote Neather, was 'to make the UK truly multicultural'.

Now the political picture has been transformed overnight by the unguarded candour of Andrew Neather's eye-opening superciliousness. For now we know that Labour politicians actually caused this to happen - and did so out of total contempt for their own core voters.

As Neather sneered, the jobs filled by immigrant workers 'certainly wouldn't be taken by unemployed BNP voters from Barking or Burnley - fascist au pair, anyone?'

So that's how New Labour views the white working class, supposedly the very people it is in politics to champion. Who can wonder that its core vote is now decamping in such large numbers to the BNP when Labour treats them like this?

Condemned out of its own mouth, it is New Labour that is responsible for the rise of the BNP - by an act of unalloyed treachery to the entire nation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html
 
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Oh noes other people! Im sickened by anyone who says immigration or multiculturalism is a bad thing! People are people, despite where they come from, their beliefs, nationality, colour of their skin and so on so i dont see why labour (continuing the previous tory governments policy which jack straw pointed out last thursday) is a bad thing at all.

As the sky "news" article states, they encouraged immigration to fill the jobs other people didnt want to do. No harm in this really.

So summary, immigration is good. Being anti-other people is just a bit foolish really

/go go gadget anti-racism
 
...immigration to fill the jobs other people didnt want to do.
One of the greatest lies of our time, unfortunately.

So summary, immigration is good. Being anti-other people is just a bit foolish really
Nobody is anti-other people. It isn't anti-other people to want to preserve your own culture and your own standard of living. Most of the world has a standard of living well below that in the UK but we can't allow them all to come here, or our own quality of life will be ruined. That isn't racist, that isn't fascist, it's just common sense.
 
Is it? Why?

Exposure to different cultures, different skills (cuisine for example) to name a few....why is it a bad thing? if this didn't happen you'd get people stuck up in their own little worlds.

Oh wait, certain minorities already are.
 
Q: How do you tell when the credit crunch is over?

A: Immigration returns to being the 'hot topic' on OcUK
 
Exposure to different cultures, different skills (cuisine for example) to name a few....why is it a bad thing? if this didn't happen you'd get people stuck up in their own little worlds.

Oh wait, certain minorities already are.

Perhaps decent, middle class, white English people are happy in their own little worlds?

How much 'diversity' is enough?
 
Nobody is anti-other people. It isn't anti-other people to want to preserve your own culture and your own standard of living. Most of the world has a standard of living well below that in the UK but we can't allow them all to come here, or our own quality of life will be ruined. That isn't racist, that isn't fascist, it's just common sense.

Urm not really, you say preserving our own culture when it really is based on other people adding to it, so by stating that your want to keep it how it was you are being anti-other people in that you dont want anyone to come add to the culture.

I never really mentioned facisim, mainly as its really really hard to define, but i do like the jack straw quote where he implys its a bt ironic when a racist party has to start by saying its not racist and using the "common sense" argument (which is a pretty loose term its self)
 
Urm not really, you say preserving our own culture when it really is based on other people adding to it, so by stating that your want to keep it how it was you are being anti-other people in that you dont want anyone to come add to the culture.
I can want to restrict immigration, while simultaneously not being anti any other people. The two are not mutually exclusive. Wanting to preserve your own culture, your own race, protect your own people etc. doesn't mean you hate other peoples, other races, other nationalities.
 
I can want to restrict immigration, while simultaneously not being anti any other people. The two are not mutually exclusive. Wanting to preserve your own culture, your own race, protect your own people etc. doesn't mean you hate other peoples, other races, other nationalities.

But how does wanting to keep other people out of your culture not imply that you disslike people of other cultures?? Blanketly saying"not British go away" is inherently implying that distrust and dislike for people of other cultures, ethnicities and nationalities, so your kidding your self in saying that preserving "your own culture, your own race" is anything but xenophobia as your saying that other people have a fundamental difference to you which your almost scared of.
 
But how does wanting to keep other people out of your culture not imply that you disslike people of other cultures??
No, not remotely.

Blanketly saying"not British go away" is inherently implying that distrust and dislike for people of other cultures, ethnicities and nationalities
No, it is not.

, so your (sic) kidding your self in saying that preserving "your own culture, your own race" is anything but xenophobia as your (sic) saying that other people have a fundamental difference to you which your (sic) almost scared of.
No.
 

Sorry but just saying no doesnt really explain how telling people "they are not British so dont come here as we dont want you" is a plausible, non racist, immigration policy as we have pretty much always welcomed immigration... (and just as importantly emigrated our selves to other countries, for example more Britons emigrated to Spain during the mid 2000's than people from newly accepted EU countries came to the UK)
 
Sorry but just saying no doesnt really explain how telling people "they are not British so dont come here as we dont want you" is a plausible, non racist, immigration policy as we have pretty much always welcomed immigration... (and just as importantly emigrated our selves to other countries, for example more Britons emigrated to Spain during the mid 2000's than people from newly accepted EU countries came to the UK)

If everyone in the third world came here tomorrow, would that be a good idea?

Would objecting to that make you racist?
 
If everyone in the third world came here tomorrow, would that be a good idea?

Would objecting to that make you racist?

Ignoring the logistical problem behind a bit over half the worlds population trying to go straight to the UK, your still ignoring the point that we dont really own the country we live in, like a watch or a computer, and it would be stupid to tell everyone its ours get away from it. So to answer your question directly (ignoring the logistical impossibility of your question) its a good idea in that they are other people and have a right to live on the earth where ever they want. So objecting on the basis they were born somewhere other than Britain is racist.
 
If everyone in the third world came here tomorrow, would that be a good idea?
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Yes, it would be an excellent plan.

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Would objecting to that make you racist?
Of course it would, racist and wholly lacking in imagination.


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